OpenBSD: open source, the way it should be?
Dear Tristian,
Firstly, let me say thank you for bringing the perils of that communist menace “Linux” to our attention. I for one have certainly taken your warning to heart, and have been very conscientious in reporting any communist sympathisers I find to the relevant authorities, such as the American Federal Bureau of Investigations. Having read of the excellent results your former colleagues in the Tuttle city administration achieved, I am sure the FBI will soon set things to right in this regard.
I have been contemplating what value, if any, this so called “open source” software development philosophy may have. Whilst there is no doubt that it is a very insidious, communist inspired ideology, surely some great American entrepreneur can find a way to turn the work of others to a tidy profit for themselves? Is that not, after all how Microsoft came to be the great American company it is today?
A quality, American owned “open source” operating system called “OpenBSD” has come to my attention and I would like to respectfully suggest Tristian, that it may be worthy of your endorsement. I know you are probably thinking this is radical, left wing propaganda talking, but please consider these extensively researched points before you cast judgement:
1) Only Americans, and some trusted foreigners (ie not Europeans) can contribute to OpenBSD.
Only a relatively chosen few (some 300 or so) are permitted to write the software. As in any great capitalist society, it is not what you know, but who you know that ensures fame and fortune in any truly worthwhile endeavour. Most of these contributors are of course, upstanding Christian Americans ? no crazy Swedish dictators here!
2) All software is vetted by the Department of Homeland Security.
Before new software is added to OpenBSD, the American government checks each and every line of code, to keep us all free of Chinese viruses and the like. Isn?t that such a selfless act!! Why can?t other nations see the good intentions of the American government, and follow their example?
3) OpenBSD is very secure
The American government also incorporates its own, highly sophisticated security codes into OpenBSD. This ensures that no other government can access your computer. That goes for individual communists (or other undesiresble persons) too!
4) American entrepreneurs can profit from OpenBSD!
Unlike that communist manifesto, the so called “GNU Public License”, OpenBSD has a very business friendly software license ? American entrepreneurs can, if they feel like it make small, simple additions to the already feature rich “OpenBSD” computer platform, and then protect all of their wonderful new software product as valuable, American Intellectual Property ? how great is that?
So Tristian, what do you think? Can a God-fearing, moral American in good conscience use OpenBSD for fun or profit? I would greatly appreciate your moral guidance on this matter.
Yours in Christ,
Michael.
PS. I found these photos at Shane’s Email Trivia, Jan’s Blog on Corporate Social Responsibility, The Rachel Maddow Show, OpenBSD and a very imoral web site nobody should ever look at.
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If the American government says its safe to use then by all means it must be ok to use it.
For once you say something that is half true, good, you are in progress!
OpenBSD is a very secured operating system, but not because of the american government, bah!
Also, learn that the creator of OpenBSD, Theo de Raadt (who lives in Canada) is against war in Iraq, so because of this, the amererican department of defense stopped financing the OpenBSD project.
Michael,
Praise be with you for your recent efforts. I was most enraptured to learn, hot on the heels of Linux’s communist, hateful roots, there is an Open-Source alternative worthy of us. It was risky of you to contemplate the radical, left wing propaganda, but seemingly, a God-fearing, moral American can now operate his computer for free, although you rightly point out that most of us do have Windows, the best OS for the job.
Yesterday I said a prayer…
“Dear Lord,
Please save the Linux users;
Save them from their non-belief;
Save them from their poor standards of personal hygiene;
Save them from wasted hours of ‘blogging their kernel’ so that they may worship You;
Save them from the communist propaganda that plagues the socialist, Marxist hate OS. ”
Maybe the Lord has answered my prayer in the form of your article. I will never relinquish the crisp, clean lines of the Microsoft OS, built as solid as your American cars, but the Lord does want all God-fearing Americans to know that there is an alternative to the handful of sweaty liberal lies which Linux is built upon. That alternative, he has deigned, is OpenBSD.
But I think we should be careful, having said all that. OpenBSD users should be monitored both by God and the FBI, as once they fall in with that hateful crowd of liberal malcontents, they are only a text screen away from praying with that penguin, the enemy of Our Lord. In particular I believe they should be banned from issuing ungodly commands such as ‘touch’, ‘rm’ and ‘finger’. It should be obvious why these commands need to be banned.
Also, I think the great and the good should impose an age-limit upon OpenBSD usage. An impressionable 12-yr old youngster is not in the same position to make responsible command-line choices as a 21-yr old, and is going to be much more susceptible to the irresponsible, freeloading liberal communist fallacy which masquerades as an OS known as Linux. We don’t want our children anywhere near the command-lines at all, neither OpenBSD but especially not Linux. But in the right hands, Michael has showed that there is an alternative for the faithful.
Bless you Michael, and Bless you once more Shelley.
Sincerely,
Engorged, of England
sheeley, sorry but your very very very stupid
first, if Tristan don’t like linux, it’s because he’s incompetent, and he don’t know anything about linux and other basic informatics stuff (read his articles).
So because he don’t know linux, he affraid of it, it’s a very primitive attitude, but when you read his article you can see he is not an intellectual.
but your right when you say openbsd is a very securised O.S, like linux, whereas Windows not.
Also for information, you’ve more DVD pyracy tools for windows than for linux, and the majority of pirated DVD are ripped on windows O.S.
Dear Engorged,
Thank you for taking the time to write to me. I must however make several points in response.
1) I was not meaning to suggest that people use OpenBSD *instead* of Microsoft Windows - I am sorry I did not make that clear. As you have pointed out, Microsoft Windows is the best possible product for people to use on their personal computers. As I suspect you are aware, there are also many other kinds of computers in the world, intended for different tasks. Some of these tasks may be better served by a product such as OpenBSD. Besides, people start businesses to make money (as is their God-given right), and there is more money to be made when you start out with something that others kindly give away for free. I suspect that is why the American government devotes so many resources to this so called “open source” project - to encourage people into business ventures that may one day become the next Microsoft or IBM.
2)While you raise some possibly valid points latter in your comment, I feel the tone you take is that of a closet liberal, pretending to be a righteous person for some unkown reason. Please, if you are at all capable of respecting other peoples’s wishes (liberals of course being quite narcissistic in general), show some respect for Shelley and take your gutter talk to her Free Speech Zone where it belongs.
Yours in Christ,
Michael.
Michael,
I am hurt that you could doubt my sincerity. I thought we were all of one mind on this and numerous other issues. I prayed to the Lord, and he sent me your article. I responded in complete support of the manifestly factual truths contained within your article, it never occurred to me that I might be smited myself and lined up with the liberals.
Michael, I implore you. The penguin can affect your mind in many ways, much as one might expect a minion of the Devil to do so. Do not confuse my shared quest in the pursuit of biblical truth to be anything other than my bearing of side-arms in your veritable crusade.
I detest digital communism as much as the next man. Allow me to fight at your side, my sword in one hand and the good book in the other. If I prayed for this, and you wrote this article, then surely the Lord has intended this? You are right to be vigilant in the pursuit of liberal cowards, sure to be found in lurking in the shadows of true giants, but I can assure you I have not accepted thirty pieces of silver from anybody.
Michael, as a fellow Christian, I forgive you. I do this easily and readily for my fellow man. Cease this madness, do not consign my sincere, like-minded epithets of support to the gutter. I am righteous as are you, but none are so righteous as Our Lord, Jesus Christ.
Yours also in Crist,
Enthralled, of England
If you are interrested by OpenBSD, Shelley, check for the future events of OpenBSD (http://openbsd.org/events.html)
Events
OpenBSD developers, users and sponsors attend trade shows and conferences, give papers, and organize “Birds Of a Feather” (BOF) sessions. This is an opportunity to find out more about OpenBSD or just meet like-minded people.
Future events:
2006
* Linuxwochen Linz 2006 , June 15, 2006, Linz, Austria.
There will be an OpenBSD and OpenSSH booth run by Wim and the usual suspects. Boothslaves volunteer at the normal address. (note: only first day of the event)
* FrOSCon 2006 - Free and Open Source Software Conference, Jun 24 - 25, 2006, Bonn/Rhein-Sieg, Germany.
There will be an OpenBSD and OpenSSH booth run by Wim and the usual suspects. Boothslaves volunteer at the normal address.
* Libre Software Meeting 2006, Jul 4 - 8, 2006, Vandoeuvre-les-nancy, France.
There will be an OpenBSD and OpenSSH booth, run by Wim and the usual suspects, with the help of Serge Basterot and Alexandre Anriot.
* OpenCON 2006 Dec 2 - 3, 2006, Venice Gateway for Science and Technology (VEGA), Venice/Mestre, Italy
OpenCON is the only conference dedicated solely to OpenBSD. There will be talks by OpenBSD developers and an OpenBSD and OpenSSH booth run by Wim and the usual suspects.
fod GoD’s sake
the usa government represented by DARPA had abbandoned the funding of ALL the BSD projects???
how can you say it is an american project, anyone has the right to submit code to any BSD project, anone has the right to take the BSD code add to it and re release it under a deifferent name with the limitation that he must say that he did that in the lisence.
what the hell people dp ypou live on a different plant or something?
God this is the funniest one yet? That FBI phot is such a lie…..and what in the hell is a good CHristian doing surfing pron sites? Must be a Protestant.
God damn…
I’ve read some of yours articles… And I think that your are really crazy !You have the mentality of the Middle Age… When I look America, I’m really proud to be a European ^^
Vince, from Brussels (it’s in Belgium…)
The fucking cow strikes again. OpenBSD is just as \”bad\” as Linux. You\’re just making stuff up as you go along!!!!!!!
I hope that you burn in hell with your \”oh-so-special\” God - who of course is is a total myth and a dickhead if he does exist.
Bye for now.
Umm…….
Bill Gates cannot be a “An inspiration to all Christian Americans.”….for the fact that William Henry Gates III (a.k.a “Bill Gates”)….last time I checked, was JEWISH!!!!
You people NEED to start researching things better.
Regards,
GOD
Ok, so I’ve come to the conclusion that this entire site, at least the Linux and now BSD bits, is a joke.
There are plenty of europeans who have commit access to OpenBSD. Off the top of my head, there’s a belgian who happens to sell on custom hardware (which is designed by americans, I admit) in europe. OpenBSD has nothing to do with the US government, and they do not check the code in any way.
OpenBSD has no ‘highly sophisticated security codes’ from the american government. It’s merely very well put together software with a safe default configuration.
noName,
Whilst I applaud your OpenBSD advocacy, I do hope there are appropiate age limits in force at these events. We should not be letting children anywhere near the dangerous command-line, nor the bearded and potentially molestatory individuals who dalliance with the text-mode devil.
A more appropriate OS for our young and impressionable is of course Windows XP. The children can browse in safety with Internet Explorer 6, and Brother Tristan has hopefully shown us all the producivity gains to be had with Bonzai Buddy. Peace be with you Brother, and do try to show Brother Michael and Sister Shelley some respect in future.
Respectfully,
Enlargened, of England
May I ask what you were doing looking at gay sex positions? Is there something that you are not letting on, you perverted little weasle?
Dear Michael Johnson,
IBM, this big and powerfull American company, is one of the biggest sponsors of OpenSource and Linux…
The worst thing that could happen to the OpenBSD guys is that retarded morons like you support it.
lol, MindlessPseudonym, you got him :)))
he thinks you really ment it serious :)))))
btw. after reading this article, even a poorly skilled unix user could see that americans are really smart people.
and i mean this serious ;))))
Greetings!
I have been reading these articles and only one question popped into my head: How can you make these statements about something you haven’t tried?
Oh by the way: open source is what’s keeping the internet alive. I mean no M$ server could stay online longer than the unix servers. That’s a flat fact. But anyone with half brain can tell you that! So you are *using* this software when you are publishing these articles!
If you just don’t care, or you are ignorant then please stop saying these non-sence things. The majority of people will only laugh at you as you can see in the comments.
Your crusade to make people hate open source will not succeed just as the crusade of the other side to make it more popular. It is a matter of need. If you need a plug-’n-play-crash-often system that uses your hardware resources needlessly then go ahead you are a perfect customer for M$. If you don’t like crashes then go ahead buy a Mac. The rest is either doesn’t have the need for PC or uses a kind of software that is more efficient.
How can you say that a handful of programmers that are forced to write a certain amount of code - or else they woudn’t get payed - will do a better job than thousands of people out there developing it and another million testing multiple architectures? Only certified codes can be included in the core of open source OSs. Not to mention the superior security functions that are built in from the beginnings…
regards,
Ferenc
from EU
Dear Engorged,
You are right. Please accept my humblest, most Christian apologies.
I guess I was a little taken aback by your post, as I did not know that OpenBSD contained the lewdnesses you alerted me to. It made me feel embarrased to have suggested to Tristian that he might want to endorse such a thing.
Yours in Christ,
Michael.
check web of you superior OS
http://experts.microsoft.fr/default.aspx
Yo Michael:
That first photo is photoshopped…
the shadows dont match (the cia or fbi guy’s shadow would not be as long as to match the hills and debris) plus the only thing with some distortion (looks like static)is the G-man…
and i bet you like that penguin picture dont you?
I love that picture of the FBI agent, kept me laughing for ages! He’s like James Bond - his tux is always clean and unrumpled, his shoes never scuffed, his countenance calm yet suave, but you know he’s just killed thousands of lowlifes with his bare hands! Just as he’s finished battling the leader of the terrorists and barely stopped the bomb timer just before it goes off, he’ll tug on his collar like so!
I hope one day you’ll understand that it isn’t better because it comes from your neightbourhood . Nothing is full bad or full right: N.O.T.H.I.N.G.
Not even God who lets people dying and others suffering.
i hope that one day you’ll try to understand foreign people, you will stop being a stupid patriot and try to understand by yourself.
I hate you and what you represent because it is the worst extremisism that you’re showing us…
(i know i’m very poor in english)
however, OpenBSD is just a un*x like linux. only an OS, nothing politic, just something usefull to got a fully useable computer and not only a *good but only binary system*.
You’re wrong and right as always because you’re deciding without enough knowledge.
Shelley, carefull look!! There is baaaaad Linux propaganda on your blog!!! AAAAAH!
Sue them is justice for this! Im sure you will, idiot.
the image is there: http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/5417/shelly6jf.jpg
You’re arrogant and conceited.
You DON’T know Linux.
Linux is NOT communist.
Linux is NOT Chinese.
In fact:
you CAN sell Linux, many company do:
RedHat
Suse
Mandrake
Why is Linux so used if it is crap?
Google
90% of forums,phpBBs,and blogs
http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2006/06/overallc.gif
and now I’m re-reading your post
Tuttle city…
that rembers me something about CentOS…
http://www.centos.org/modules/news/article.php?storyid=127
how can you make comments on Linux if you don’t even know what it is?
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An FBI agent, poses for a happy snap after smashing Al Qaeda?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥s Linux-powered DVD piracy operation in the deserts of Afghanistan, simultaneously depriving the terrorists of funds, and protecting the profits of American companies
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There are MUCH more piracy tools for Windows than for Linux, so why Al Qaeda use Linux?
Because it’s stronger
Or because Al Qaeda is stupid
One of the two
But
Do you think Al Qaeda made the 11/9 being stupid?
I think they’re fool, I’m a Christian too, it’s fool to kill people, no matter why.
I don’t think they’re stupid.
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I have been contemplating what value, if any, this so called ?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ?open source??? software development philosophy may have.
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You make a delicious dessert with a recipe you just invented.
A neighbor of yours asks for the recipe.
What do you do?
You give your neighbor the recipe as a Christian.
Or you don’t?
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Whilst there is no doubt that it is a very insidious, communist inspired ideology,
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That’s not communist.
What the first Christians did?
They SHARED all the things they had.
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surely some great American entrepreneur can find a way to turn the work of others to a tidy profit for themselves? Is that not, after all how Microsoft came to be the great American company it is today?
Bill and Melinda Gates ?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¨ great American entrepreneurs and philanthropists. An inspiration to all Christian Americans.
A quality, American owned ?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ?open source??? operating system called ?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ?OpenBSD???
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OpenBSD it’s NOT owned by America
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has come to my attention and I would like to respectfully suggest Tristian, that it may be worthy of your endorsement. I know you are probably thinking this is radical, left wing propaganda talking, but please consider these extensively researched points before you cast judgement:
1) Only Americans, and some trusted foreigners (ie not Europeans) can contribute to OpenBSD.
Only a relatively chosen few (some 300 or so) are permitted to write the software. As in any great capitalist society, it is not what you know, but who you know that ensures fame and fortune in any truly worthwhile endeavour. Most of these contributors are of course, upstanding Christian Americans ?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¨ no crazy Swedish dictators here!
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http://www.openbsd.org/images/map.jpg
take a look at Europeans points
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2) All software is vetted by the Department of Homeland Security.
Before new software is added to OpenBSD, the American government checks each and every line of code, to keep us all free of Chinese viruses and the like. Isn?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥t that such a selfless act!! Why can?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥t other nations see the good intentions of the American government, and follow their example?
3) OpenBSD is very secure
The American government also incorporates its own, highly sophisticated security codes into OpenBSD. This ensures that no other government can access your computer. That goes for individual communists (or other undesiresble persons) too!
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OpenBSD ensures that NO GOVERNMENT can access your computer.
Neither the American one
Neither any other one.
http://images.google.it/images?q=tbn:kktY9C4SsbFWHM:www.linuxtage.at/download/glt05-tux-farbe.jpg
THIS is the Linux logo
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4) American entrepreneurs can profit from OpenBSD!
Unlike that communist manifesto, the so called ?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ?GNU Public License???,
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The Gnu General Public License (not the so calles Gnu Public License, it has NO other names) it’s made to PROTECT
1)The copyright OWNER
2)The users
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OpenBSD has a very business friendly software license ?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¨ American entrepreneurs can, if they feel like it make small, simple additions to the already feature rich ?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ?OpenBSD??? computer platform, and then protect all of their wonderful new software product as valuable, American Intellectual Property ?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¨ how great is that?
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YOU can sell Linux I can sell Linux EVERYBODY can sell Linux
RedHat does (http://www.redhat.com/about/contact/ww/) RedHAt HEADQUARTERS are in America
Suse does (http://www.novell.com/company/ir/cg/bylaws.pdf regiostered office in the US)
SO?
I would aprecciate your comments
Leonardo,
I see you have been praying with the penguin, and I fear it is you who is the ignorant one. Businesses can’t sell products with Linux in them, as there is a sweaty, bearded communist manifesto licence which prevents companies from innovating the Linux product. Instead God has annointed OpenBSD as suitable for that tiny, fractional percentage of uses where Windows XP is not best for your needs as a consumer. You should be grateful, in my country the government does not care about the way you use your computer as much as your government does, a trademark of the spendocrat laissez-faire euro-liberals who ooze social redistribution wherever they crawl.
Your government cares more for you, count your blessings. Please take your hateful penguin-worship outside, and learn to speak English properly thankyou.
Respectfully,
Freedom Lover, of England
You?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥re a stupid moron. American Federal Bureau of Investigations (FBI) is running their web server on a LINUX platform.
Please report LINUX as a “communist” system to FBI, and let them laugh out loud to you too.
Idiot!
Hey Michael, you ignorant!
Here are just a few Swedish inventions you all (should) know about:
- The Dynamite (which gave the world our great ?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ?Nobel Price???)
- The refrigerator (without any moving parts)
- Tetra Pak (the most common paper package system for non-carbonated liquids)
- The Separator and the Milking Machine
- The Ball Bearing
- The Propeller
- The Safety Match
- The Turbo Engine for Cars
- The Adjustable Spanner (one of the most common tools)
- The Pipe Wrench (another common tool)
- The Blowlamp / Blowtorch
- The Pacemaker (without it a lot of americans would’nt be alive)
- The computer mouse (you are probably holding a - Swedish invention right now)
- The fundamental principles of computer color graphics (same guy as the mouse)
SweRocks, I didn’t know that the mouse was a swedish invention! Thanks for pointing out. I guess that you never stop to learn
>I see you have been praying with the penguin,
no, I don’t mix PC and God
> and I fear it is you who is the ignorant one.
No I’m not; I’ve tried both, Linux is better
> Businesses can’t sell products with Linux in them, as there is a sweaty, bearded communist
manifesto licence which prevents companies from innovating the Linux product.
That’s not true.
Suse innovates Linux, RedHat does(as I wrote).
GPL is not communist(as I wrote)
and as I wrote there are similia between GPL and the principles of first Christians
but linking God and computers it’s bad, I think
> Instead God has annointed OpenBSD as suitable for that tiny, fractional percentage of uses where Windows XP is not best for your needs as a consumer.
What are the relations between God an OpenBSD?
> You should be grateful, in my country the government does not care about the way you use your computer as much as your government does, a trademark of the spendocrat laissez-faire euro-liberals who ooze social redistribution wherever they crawl. Your government cares more for you, count your blessings. Please take your hateful penguin-worship outside, and learn to speak English properly thank you.
What does talking about my English mean with it?
Can you speak MY language as good as I speak English?
I LOVE THE SWEEDISH!
And i am serious about that.
Starting to like them more than my fellow americans…
Shelley and Tristan, your show here is very amusing. Please continue entertaining us with your seeming wisdom. :)
I love it to read it every day.
Dear Europeans,
You seem to have misunderstood my comment about OpenBSD being “business friendly”.
The so-called “GNU Pubic License” requires a hard working company to make all of its computer codes available along with the product they are selling. What incentive to innovate would any company have if they were forced to give away their valuable intellectual property for anyone and everyone to steal their work.
OpenBSD is much more sensible (ie American) - the codes stay top secret, rightly protecting the valuable contribution of the hard working software developers.
Does that make sense now? Do I need to explain this to you again, in even simpler terms?
Michael Johnson.
Dear “Open Source” aficionados,
Please! We are trying to have an open, well informed debate here. We do not “hate” open source. We do not “hate” anything (except perhaps sin) - ours is a very open, inclusive faith. Just because we want to deal in fact rather than fiction does not make us the bad guys you liberals try to make us out to be.
You say “Linux is not Chinese”. You say “IBM invests billions in Linux”. I say “go into your local computer shop and buy an IBM computer”. Where do you think your money is going? A good “all American” company? NO! Your money goes straight to the Chinese Communists, via their thinly veiled front company “Lenovo”.
We welcome your participation in our well-informed debate, but please have the decency (as much as is possible for a liberal/European)to back up your arguments with sensible fact, not silly fiction.
Michael Johnson.
The so-called ?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ?GNU Pubic License??? requires a hard working company to make all of its computer codes available along with the product they are selling. What incentive to innovate would any company have if they were forced to give away their valuable intellectual property for anyone and everyone to steal their work.
So why Suse and RedHat are still going if anyone can steal their work?
Maybe God loves Linux?
Or maybe NO ONE DISTRIBUTING LINUX IS FORCED TO USE GPL FOR THEIR PROGRAMS?
Really, you don’t have to use the GPL for things that are written by YOU, except if YOU use GPL code.
Oh
other 2 things:
Rem Junes wrote:
Shelley, carefull look!! There is baaaaad Linux propaganda on your blog!!! AAAAAH!
Sue them is justice for this! Im sure you will, idiot.
the image is there: http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/5417/shelly6jf.jpg
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He forgot to mark PHP and Perl
and
You didn’t answer to my comments
Dear Leonardo,
I agree 110% with your comments on the GNU Pubic license. I am glad you are starting to come around to might point of view!!!
This is the beauty of the OpenBSD software license - you CAN use their codes, make little improvements to it and then profit from the end result, whilst still protecting your valuable intellectual property.
Is this not the American way? Has not America proved, again and again that the American way is the best way?
Do you understand what I am saying?
Michael Johnson.
PS. Are you a European? I’m sorry.
PS. Is there anything else you would like me to clarify for you?
ey shelley,
this is a linux christian distribution:
http://laparroquia.net/cristux/
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ohhh, you’re using wordpress??? with GPL-2 license? hehehe
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Linux is the best piece of software on the world :)
To Michael: the first part of my comment was a quote, the other parts are my comment
btw you still haven’t answered my questions
“I agree 110% with your comments on the GNU Pubic license. I am glad you are starting to come around to might point of view!!!
This is the beauty of the OpenBSD software license - you CAN use their codes, make little improvements to it and then profit from the end result, whilst still protecting your valuable intellectual property.
Is this not the American way? Has not America proved, again and again that the American way is the best way?”
So let`s clear things. You take someone`s code, make some “little improvements” and the sell it. And declare it as your product. This is exactly what i don`t like about the BSD lisence. Someone has worked very hard, then you take his work, modify it a little and make profit from it. How is this supposed to be good. I guess making profit from others` work is good for you but somehow i fail to understand how the religios part of it accepts that. You must be either full of controvercies or you must have a really strange understanding of religion. The truth is that both lisences are designed to protect freedom and for this i respect them both. The very idea of Open Source Software is connected with freedom and i think that you americans of all people should appreciate that. However articles like this and the one about “linux the european threat…” make me think that freedom is the last thing that you care about. And no the american way is not always the best one. It may be efficient or profitable but there is a big difference between profit and good.
Dear Alexander,
Yes, liberals don’t like the “freedom”, they only want conformity with their point of view. Please, we do not need liberal propaganda here - that is what Shelly created the free speech zone for.
Everybody who contributes to these so called “open source” projects that use the BSD license know exactly what the fruit of their labours will be used for. They *want* people to profit from their work - why else would they contribute to such endeavours? It is not for liberals or anyone else to judge their actions - that is what “freedom” is all about.
Also, why are you trying to connect religion to OpenBSD. There is no connection between the two. One is a personal faith, held by the vast majority of Americans (and other God-fearing peoples around the world), and the other is a computer operating system. I do not know how to put it any simpler than that.
Michael Johnson.
Wow! an intelligent post
btw they’re not so-called open source they ARE open source
Micheal,
Do you have MSN or another chat system? If so, I’d like to talk to you.
Here we go again … RED DAWN !
Pff .. Come on … That’s just old … You’ll have to do better than that …
You are saying that microsoft windows is better than linux…I’m studing computer science, with linux I can do all I want, I can find out a better solution for some problems and I couldn’t use my code? do you think bill gates is competent? he is a thief, only this. He don’t know how to write a secure os and he took some ideas from other people…who is the thief now? Me, a student or bill gates…I was forgotten, he has millions of dollars…you believe in dollars, not in truth…have a nice day
Well this article again shows interesting things. I’m not into politics, but I’ve read some software related articles here. (for example that about the “kernel”.. even windows has one, and it’s not cmd.exe) Anyway, the thing is, no matter what you want to support democrats/republicans/communists etc.. you can’t come up with clear bullshit, and nonsense crap, cause it will make you look like idiots, and ruin your point.
Lot’s of people think this is a satiric site to show the stupidity of republicans, for that one it sure is a good one, but if that’s not your point, I would really get my self together in that case cause you get the wrong message spread.
This was just a friendly advice. Not only for you Shelley, but also for those who comment here, to say their counter opinion.
Some greats openbsd hackers come from france(for exemple the ipw2200 developper).
Why NSA use linux ?
http://www.nsa.gov/selinux/
Hi Tristan,
Are you familiar with this OS:
http://www.centos.org/ ?
Would you endorce it? I think it is only used in US.
Best regards
Una Merican
Dear Linux aficionados,
Anonymous poster #49 - Thank you for that link. I did not know that the NSA strips out all of the Chinese viruses and such to provide Linux users with a “safe” environment. That just goes to show how community spritied the NSA really is! Hooray for the NSA I say! That being said, why not use an evironment that is virus free right from the start - OpenBSD!
Anyway, please try to stay on topic - OpenBSD. If you would like to talk about Linux, it would be better to refer to one of Tristan’s great articles on the subject, or use the Free Speech Zone that Shelly thoughtfully created for people such as yourselves.
Thanks,
Michael Johnson.
“I did not know that the NSA strips out all of the Chinese viruses and such to provide Linux users with a ?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ?safe?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ? environment.”
“why not use an evironment that is virus free right from the start - OpenBSD!”
I`ve been using linux for some time and i don`t have an antivirus program. And yet i don`t have problems with viruses. Guess why - because linux is as free from viruses as any BSD system including OpenBSD. It is as you call it “virus free from the start”. In fact SElinux is not needed on a desktop computer. I use linux (Debian GNU/Linux) without SELinux and i don`t have any security problems (at least not the ones connected with viruses). The reason for this is because linux by its design is very unfriendly to viruses. I have to know which exact file is infected (if this is the right term), then make the file executable and the execute it. Even if did all of these steps the virus cannot destroy my entire system. To put it simply Windows is like the planet Earth and Linux is like the Moon. Here on Earth there is an atmosphere and comfortableenvironment. Because of this on Earth there are thousands of different kinds of germs and microbs and viruses. On the moon there are none because the environment doesn`t allow their existence. Of course i must admitt that OpenBSD is more secure than linux but on a desktop PC one doesn`t need that much security. And it is a waste of time and resources to turn OpenBSD into a desktop system (it would be much more suitable for a server system). For desktop system i would recommend linux or other BSD systems like Free-BSD and PC-BSD - they can grant you all the security you will ever need as desktop pc users. And the very idea that there are viruses or other software designed with bad intentions incorporated in linux is stupid and absurd to say the least. I`ve read many times here that there are viruses (chinese or european) in linux. If you make such statements please proove them. And when declaring such statements please have in mind that linux is an open source software which means that even if at some point there were viruses incorporated in it (which of course is not true), it would have been found a long time ago. And one last note - linux (by linux i mean not only the kernel but the linux distribuitions as well) is developed by developers not by hackers. To call a person who takes from his own time to create something and share it with someone is irrespective and offensive. And to address the topic - OpenBSD - i think it is a wonderful system but it simply is not designed as desktop system. It would be much wiser to use it as server where it enhanced security features would be useful.
“Of course i must admitt that OpenBSD is more secure than linux”
I don`t know if i can edint my post so i must say that i didn`t mean any linux system. I meant to say that OpenBSD is more secure than my own system which is only natural considering that i set up system as desktop system not server system. Configured carefully linux can be as secure as OpenBSD (not that the usual user would require that kind of security).
what’s your problem? you have nothing to do and you write so stupid things? you always talk about freedom, tell me where is the freedom with windows? you can use, paying much money, only the executable files…file .exe. So if it isn’t like you want, you can do nothing. It is good? it is an example of freedom? I can program a pc, so if I write my personal program and I wanna share it with some friends, where is the problem? it is written by me and I decide for sharing…if you don’t give me possibility to do this, you can say you are defending freedom?
I do nothing bad, but tell me why microsoft have to know everything I do with my pc? there is no reason, you defend freedom…again, windows has always been a bad os, instable and not secure, so give me one good reason to use it. I have to pay for this rubbish and then I have to deal with viruses and other rubbish…why? I’m not crazy and I have no time to lose. Again I study computer science, it is good for me creating a perfet machine for my purposes…and in my university we share our efforces…are we stupid? no, we are working for better system. please, stop writing these rubbish: this makes you more and more ridicoulos and stupid. You never know anything about the subject, you only have to defend money, the only god you know. I am a good christian and I use linux. I am not a terrorist. I turn on my brain before choose.you should do the same. have a nice sunday
http://www.nsa.gov/selinux/info/faq.cfm#I19
GPL is really communist.
Even NSA uses it!
Do you really like Microsoft?
You must view that videos about Steve Ballmer:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6304687408656696643
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1274983729713522403
Has he took drugs?
I think yes
This is the first time I’ve red this page and I’ve been open-mouthed for a while after checking that the fanaticism of some people can reach to unimaginable levels.
I only hope that the americans won?Ǭ¨?Ǭ•t follow these radical ideas and convincing themselves that listen is as important as talk. In the last years, USA has showed the world that they are far away from the freedom and justice they presume.
Even nowadays, I can’t understand how this country has voted such a fool president. It?Ǭ¨?Ǭ•s a shame to hear him speaking. Just incredible!. And to top it all, the goverment tries to control the press, the media,…
I wish you better luck next time because the worst thing that someone could wish for the USA is to continue this way. Travel much abroad and listen to the people. Things will change better for sure.
Open your eyes and don’t let anyone to think for you or control you. That’s the real dictatorship!
These two articles have made my day. Sucked that I had to come into work today, but between these two hilarious articles, somehow I managed to make it through. Maybe you can figure out what happend to OS/2 and the DEC Alpha CPUs while you’re at it. You guys are the funniest thing I have seen all year. Keep up the good bullshit.
oh God!
did Christ say people pay by his words?
NOT!
did the Bible be distributed all over the world using a “Closed Source” ideology?
NOT!
was the Bible a free distributable, and free traslated thing in the world??
YES!
why? because we believe in share the best things with others, to join enforcements tyo raise a goal… those people joined efforts trastlated the Bible, and usually died when working on it
it’s like now, when we want to shar our effort to others…. why to use closesource applications? Ok, some of then really are good, but some other are very expensive… so we can use open source… using freedom to give freedom to others…
I remember what you said in another post… about the bomb airplane ready to kill some thousand of human beings sons of Gos as we are… falled by the attack of some hackers, let me think as an american, oh God! how bad is it! let me think as a humanist, let me think as a believer in God, o God! only a few people died and one city is safe, how good is it!!!
are you worried about a technologic war, my brother, do you believe in God as you said?
pray again and find the answers
I believe in God, not in Microsoft…
YOU ARE A FUCKING DUMBASS, ALL THIS SHIT ABOU TAMERICA ND FUCK YOU I PRSONALLY HOPE THAT OSAMA BIN LADEN COMES AND BLOWS UP YOUR HOUSE. I MEAN HOW DUM CAN YOU GET “THE AMERICAN WAY” FUCK YOU U PATRIOTIC DUMBASS, GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT YOU DUMB WHORE FUCK YOU
“I have been contemplating what value, if any, this so called ?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ?open source?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ? software development philosophy may have. Whilst there is no doubt that it is a very insidious, communist inspired ideology, surely some great American entrepreneur can find a way to turn the work of others to a tidy profit for themselves? Is that not, after all how Microsoft came to be the great American company it is today?”
If you hate open source that much why do you use open source blog then.
http://wordpress.org/about/
“WordPress was born out of a desire for an elegant, well-architectured personal publishing system built on PHP and MySQL and licensed under the GPL.”
Of course Oper Source is a secure, that’s why open borders keep countries safe, that’s why all doors to banks are always open, becuase it’s the best way to keep things secure. Afraid that someone might steal you new plasma t.v.? Hey, open all your doors, that will keep all the bugs out. Infact, tear down all the walls, be completely open, the more open you are, the more protected you are. Just ask the the people in Isreal and Lebanon. When those sirens go off, man, everyone runs out side into the open where it is safe. - you bunch of drunken open minded idiots. Open source, pfft. An open source, is an empty source. Let’s see, Bill gates has Billions, you have nothing, hmmm Bill Gates give billions in aide to the poorest countries in the world, you give nothing. Ya, that open source thing will really make the world a better place to live cause all the needy people will just die off while you compile your kernel to get the latest windows game to work on it.
Ugh … FBI only works in the USA, not out side the USA. Therefore, the image’s comment is not correct. How can I now believe the rest of the demonstration, knowing that at least one sentence is wrong?
In doubt, I shall not believe this article.
“Of course Oper Source is a secure, that?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥s why open borders keep countries safe, that?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥s why all doors to banks are always open, becuase it?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥s the best way to keep things secure. Afraid that someone might steal you new plasma t.v.? Hey, open all your doors, that will keep all the bugs out. Infact, tear down all the walls, be completely open, the more open you are, the more protected you are. Just ask the the people in Isreal and Lebanon. When those sirens go off, man, everyone runs out side into the open where it is safe. - you bunch of drunken open minded idiots. Open source, pfft. An open source, is an empty source. Let?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥s see, Bill gates has Billions, you have nothing, hmmm Bill Gates give billions in aide to the poorest countries in the world, you give nothing. Ya, that open source thing will really make the world a better place to live cause all the needy people will just die off while you compile your kernel to get the latest windows game to work on it.”
even if Bill gates gives lot of money to the poor, thats not enough. Did you know tha 1% of the US army’s budget would be enough to end world hunger?
In the real world we give nothing? lets say a poor school in Africa finally got hold in some computers (pentium II, 64mb Ram etc…) but they can’t get it to work because the newest windows OS has to high requirements, all they have then is a computer they can’t use. but they could really just download or order Xubuntu (for free). The students at this scool will have more out of linux since they learn programming and how an OS works.
In windows you just do this and that and expect it to work, in linux you actually gett to learn what your’e doing
And the arguments against open source in your post is just plain Sh*t
You are creazy… I LOVE LINUX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
you know what the real OpenBSD logo looks like…? ;) it’s ok if you don’t like Linux or OpenBSD or anything else with Opensource. but the most of this article is not true.. somone made things up. Like who can contribute to OpenBSD, the linux logo? have you made this up Michael? you know what the bible says about lies?
American technology is lightyears behind European technology…
hard to admit, but true…
Hey, Shelley !
Your blog runs under WordPress, wich is … an Open Source GPL software ! (u know … some kind of communist shit)
HA HA HA ! it’s so funny to see how stupid you are !
:)
Bill Gates is an ATHEIST!!!
check this:
http://www.celebatheists.com/index.php?title=Bill_Gates
BSD’s logo used to be a demon. Just thought you’d like to know?
By the way, you’ll probably have to wipe your servers, this post was sent from a linux system using firefox. 0_o