America : Freedom to Fascism? Liberal Hatespeech!
Dear Friends
Only Liberals can take something wonderful and beautiful like America and the American society and claim it would be something ugly and dangerous. Now they actually complain that they have to pay taxes! Can you believe it? We always knew that liberals are cowards and slackers, they have proven this to us over and over again. They want to cut and run in Iraq, they don’t want to fight against terrorism and crime, don’t want to fight against drugs and poverty and now this?
Please watch this movie trailer and see for yourself.
It is just shameful. I am a very proud American but the thought that people like this also claim to be American makes me sick. They are not American, they are something else. The movie company “Cinema Libre Studio” has strong ties to the Venezuelan government. I believe they are directly funded by Hugo Chavez!
This is an urgent matter, we have to stop this piece of crap movie from appearing whatever it costs in order to protect the good name of America in the world.
I am hereby issuing an urgent STR ACTION ALERT!
Please do one of the following:
- Contact “Cinema Libre Studio” and urge them to stop the release of this and other America hating productions.
- Contact your congressman and urge him/her to issue legislation to ban this movie and the above movie company.
- Educate your friends and family about this hateful movie. Do not allow your children to watch it!
- If we can’t stop the movie before it’s release date, go to the movie theater and stop people from seeing it!
God bless you all and thank you very much for your support for America.
Shelley Goodman
“If we can?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥t stop the movie before it?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥s release date, go to the movie theater and stop people from seeing it!”
Yeah, lets shoot everybody, that wanne see this movie! As know from STR every bullet is aimed by god himself.
I do agree that we should picket this movie. This movie is an offence to every brave American who gave his life in defence of our great country.
ok…you defend freedom. there is no freedom when I can’t say what I really think…come back when there was Stalin or Hitler or Mussolini or Castro(not only communist as you can see)which shoot everyone not agree with them…I can distinguish what is bad and what not, I can decide to see or not the film, but I have decide by myself, It isn’t correct you decide for me. you can do this with your children and I try pain for they why they will not know other that a bigoted, ignoring and stupid world and they will confuse the God money with the true God that protect us from the high.I can say that your lifestyle is the worst in the world…what do you feel now?
RESPECT and TURN ON you brain BEFORE writing…don’t try to make the world as you want, be a part of this wonderful planet…remember, this everytime you try to write so stupid things…and please answer me if it you have the courage…or are you like all other christians?It is easy to write something, but you succeed to face a civil debate? I think not beacasue all the things you write here are nonsense, you can’t defend the nothing.
Do not censor any movie you integrists !
People have freedom of speech as well as you have it.
Anyway it is not that they don’t wan’t to “fight against terrorism” nor doing anything “for poor” it is just that they disagree with GWB way to do…And i could’nt agree more!
America is looking like democracy but slightly derivating to fascism.
To ban any cultural idea would be fascism. Proove you’re still a democracry and not only a shape of it.
Hatespeech?
doubleplusgood wording, comrade.
You’re more left wing than I give you credit for.
I want to see it.
I will certainly go and see that movie…
Thanks for all the great tips and links… ;-)
Erica N. Unam
Please don’t watch that movie! It’s full of lies, that is my point!
@Shelley
Just name one of the “lies”, but please let it be real lies, not ones made up by yourself.
“Contact your congressman and urge him/her to issue legislation to ban this movie and the above movie company.”
That sounds like quite a facist thing to ask of Americans. Passing legislation like that would be in direct violation of the 1st Amendment, and thus “unconstitutional.” Why would someone who claims to love America so much, ask her fellow citizens to tread all over their own Bill of Rights?
Let me ask this question…
If this movie is really full of lies, than why is the IRS and the Feds refusing to answer our questions?
Please see:
http://www.givemeliberty.org/
I’ve come to this web due to a link to some Linux lies written here and I’ve found this film, it seems very interesting. I don’t know how Shelley knows that film is full of lies if she has never seen it.
This web is very strange and extremist, Quote: “we have to stop this piece of crap movie”
What freedom of speech do you believe in?
Freedom to Fascism? Are you sure this isn’t the DemocRAT platform? Maybe it’s al-Gore’s campaign film for 2008!
As to the “freedom of speech” issues, you can’t yell “fire” in a crowded theater. I think this answers that.
Shelley Goodman, could you please answer th3ch3’s question? I also would like to hear your reply.
“Everybody is in favor of free speech. Hardly a day passes without its being extolled, but some people?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥s idea of it is that they are free to say what they like, but if anyone says anything back, that is an outrage.” - Winston Churchill
“To suppress free speech is a double wrong. It violates the rights of the hearer as well as those of the speaker.” - Fredrick Douglass
Anonymous! There’s a Free Speech Zone for those sorts of naughty posts. World War III is going on right now. So what these little-known foreigners have to say is of little or no concern.
Listen Shelley, I am as conservative as they come and I love my country and that is why I am supporting this movie. George W. Bush is no more conservative than Bill Clinton. He just gives you little tid bits to keep you happy. They always say walk the walk dont talk the talk. Well our “great conservative leader” certainly is not walking the walk. Judge a man by his actions not by his mouth. This movie is a liberation from the bondage of just thinking republican or democrat. You need to wake up and become Shelley the American not Shelley the republican
Boy, Richard 23, you are tough to please. In various posts I have quoted the Bible, Thomas Jefferson, Winston Churchill, and Fredrick Douglass, and so far none of them have met your standards.
BTW, Winston Churchill is hardly “little known.” He was one of the U.S.’s greatest allies during World War II, and without his help we might not have won. And Fredrick Douglass wasn’t a foreigner.
I guess ignorance is bliss, huh?
U.S. Constitution:
First Amendment
Religion and Expression
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Sounds simple enough to understand?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?Ǭ?so what?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥s the problem?
Something else to consider:
All Judges take an “Oath of Office” to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States of America.
Most however do not!
We need to hold these ?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ?lawless?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ? Judges responsible for their reckless actions!
Please click the link below for more information:
http://www.jail4judges.org/
Shelly, it’s evident you only know of the history taught in public schools. I, too, was a die hard “American Patriot” such as yourself. Then one day I woke up from the “American Dream” and began to open my mind to the TRUTH our forefathers saw coming. It’s here today. To quote Theodore Roosevelt (1901?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¨1909)
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.” Here’s a little bit of History that wasn’t taught to me in school Check out this video at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2BF9MCjJdI ..Wake up Americans before it’s to late, for Our children and grandchildren”s sake.
Here’s a quote” Despite these warnings, Woodrow Wilson signed the 1913 Federal Reserve Act. A few years later he wrote: I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the civilized world no longer a Government by free opinion, no longer a Government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a Government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men. -Woodrow Wilson
hERE’S ANOTHER QUOTE;If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks…will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered…. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. -Thomas Jefferson
COULD JEFFERSON HAVE TRIED TO WARN US THAT THE FEDERAL RESERVE BANKING SYSTEM WAS COMING DOWN THE PIKE…BY THE WAY THE FEDS ….ARE A CORPERATIONA,NOT AN AGENCY OF THE FEDERAL GOV.BUT A PRIVATE BANKING SYSTEM
now that I went to a screening of the movie in Austin, I can assure you all this is not an anti-American film. Just the opposite is true. It is a film about true liberty, what has gone wrong, and how to get it back. I highly highly everyone to get out and see this movie this weekend even if it means driving a few hours.
let me start by saying i would give my life to protect your right to say what you said Shelley, but are you insane? have you completely lost touch with what America is? go treat yourself to a college American History course, you call yourself a conservative, ha! thats laughable you neocon fraud.
as youve already stated - in this country you have the constitutionally-protected freedom to say whatever you want, and you obviously feel very strongly about this country’s ethical and moral superiority due largely in part to that fateful document on which are founders began this so-called dream. so then how, after expounding on the greatness of those rights and freedoms, plead for congress to BAN another’s expression simply because you don’t agree with it? thats insane and hypocritical and frankly - dare i even say it — UNAMERICAN. its a republic not a nation. do your homework.
I am going to see this film and encourage everyone to see it as well.
There’s no such thing as BAD publicity. The more people talk about this movie, the more people who will want to see it. I thank you for your promotion of this movie. Republicans, Democrats… both are the same. You fear this film because it threatens the status quo.
Looks Great! Viva Chavez!
Think you for telling me what to believe, watch or see. I am sooooo glad people advocate the loss of Individual Rights. America should only allow free speech and thought that the government thinks is safe. No dissenting voices in ANY MSM ever, never. If anybody or country disagrees they should be imprisoned or put into a mental institution for life or the country bombed. Just like Russia did.
That is what all the wars America was fighting for. To make people only see and think what we think is best for them. So you people or countries that don’t like salve taxes better get use to it or else.
Hypocrite. Before hawking this book, why not listen to the “Hate Speech” from the right. Try tuning in to Savage, Limbaugh, Liddy, Hannity, O’Reilly, etc., etc., etc.
Shelly is either blinded by ignorance or an outright liar.
This movie is neither “left” nor “right” (although most who denounce it accuse it of being too far to the right.”
Did everyone notice how Shelly (along with the IRS) REFUSE to answer questions about the issue of the income tax?
The reality is this: The income tax AS IT IS WRITTEN IN THE INTERNAL REVENUE CODE………IS (get that?) IS Constitutional.
But to establish liability requires a MINIMUM of FIVE separate statutes. The FIFTH statute is paramount. For instance, Section 871 or Section 911 ARE what are known as “operative sections” of the code WHICH DO ESTABLISH LIABILITY for foreigners working in the United States and for the foreign earned income of Americans, respectively.
THERE IS NO OPERATIVE SECTION that shows the activities of the average american as taxable. The misapplication of the Internal Revenue Code is used to help HIDE the massive inflation being created by the Federal Reserve.
LEARN THE TRUTH !!!
Well, Shelly? Are you on vacation ? Or are you going to explain your point of view?
FURTHER CLARIFICATION OF MY LAST POST.
What people need to realize is that the income tax is imposed on ACTIVITIES. It is NOT imposed on the money earned during those activities. The money is only the MEASURMENT of the tax. IF one engages in one of the activities that ARE statutorily shown to be taxed (like the examples above…sections 871 & section 911) then THOSE persons ACTUALLY DO OWE THE TAX.
visit: www dot 861 dot info to learn more.
you know, generally i’d debate your ignorant position point by point, but in this case, you’ve proven yourself to be such a goddam IDIOT that there’s no point…suffice it to say that you are an ingorant ass and the everything you’ve said here isn’t worth discussing for that very FACT.
i’m referring, of course to this ignorant Shelley brainwashed flag-waving “my country right or wrong” sheeple moron…most other posts here seem to display at least a semblance of intelligence, whether or not i agree i with them.
shelley - really now, cowboy, go back to your trailer and leave america to the people who who don’t have their heads up their asses. moron.
oh sweet motherfukkin goddam jesus - please disregard my previous posts…had i took a gander at the rest of your site (i.e. “aids: gods gift to africa”) i’d have realized that you’re not even worth my profanity…fukkin eh godcunt mary jesus and joseph, you are one seriously stupid motherfucker…crawl back in your whole…and stop calling yourself a “republican”…you’re little more than ignorant white trash who should be denied any and all party affiliation, let alone the right to vote.
p.s. i hope you choke on your mother’s (the whore) cunt juice.
Wow!!!! This bitch is a total retard!
Shelly your ignorance shines brightly through your opening message. I bet you haven’t even seen this courageous documentary. America needs to WAKE UP to the lies perpetrated by the U.S $hadow government before it’s too late. Mr. Russos’s film not only pulls back the curtain on major deceptions perpetrated by this government on behalf of israeli and banking cartels interests. I Love America and the founding constitution. I dislike the corrupt DC machine and the evil that it perpetrates against its citizens and around the worls. ALL AMERICANS THAT CARE ABOUT AMERICA MUST SEE THIS FILM!!! DON’T BECOME THE MOST LIED TO PEOPLE ON THE PLANET!!! disobedience to TYRANNy, is OBEDIENCE to our DIVINE CREATOR….
I love when people call other people Unamerican.. And then say they want to ban a movie.. lol
Thats rich.
This country hasn’t been under the Federal Jurisdiction of the Constitution since 1913…..We live under UCC statutues and Codes that benefit the PRIVATE/FOREIGN Banking Cartel who took control of our Treasury when Woodrow Wilson signed it over to them. Are you a liar or just an idiot?
This sounds like a great film. I see Chavez mentioned, great. He’s a beacon of hope as far as I’m concerned. Just think, a President who feels that the resources of a nation should be used to benefit everyone, not just the wealthy. How subversive. I wish we had Chavez as President in the US.
It is only when the right sees their already falsified positions beginning to be compromised dearly do they cry, “ban the movie”. As a loyal American - I believe that not only is this wrong, but that our government has and IS lying through their collective teeth to hid their lies. It is only by HEARING BOTH sides of the argument that we can expose their lies and spark enough of a debate to get rid of them.
Poor Shelly. Poor, poor pathetic Shelly. Dearest Shelly, what did you ever think would happen once you posted your writings? I feel badly that everyone has slammed you so hard up against the proverbial wall, but honey, you ain’t got the sense God gave a stop sign, and basically, your wounds have been self inflicted.
Aaron Russo,a friend of John Stadtmiller at the Republic Broadcasting Network & a former friend of the late Bill Cooper (Behold a Pale Horse, The Hour of the Time)is hardly a “liberal America hater”! During the Clintonista regime,he would have been labeled a “right wing paranoid conspiracy nut”! You are a socialist republicrat, Shelley! Real patriots are’nt globalist interventionists who love the Marxist income tax & the emerging police state! Nor do they advocate censorship of the truth!
This is not a left vs right movie, people from both sides speak out about a major deception on the american people.
This is the people vs the elites. This is about your rights, which if you take a closer look are getting smaller and smaller.
All countries have their problems no country is close to being perfect. Stop having your blinders on, embrace the honesty of nightfall.
And please do not support the neocons. The original plan was to transform the conservative movement “against their [people's] own respective wills” as neocon godfather Irving Kristol put it. These people have written a lot about Machiavelli and Leo Strass philophy of deception. Extremely elitist people.
Hatespeech? Get real..
“Compassionate Conservatism - Only in America”
And I’m sorry, but that’s just laughable.
Well well. Looks like you dont have any support shelly. Its a shame you would rather be a fascist then a free American. How about we start a potition to ban you from the Internet? Now that would be impending you 1st admendment rights wouldn’t it? Before starting a rant, you need to have facts to back up your argument. Just a little tip.
I also love it when people can’t respond to an argument and simply resort to ad hominem attacks. Ooooo, I’m supposed to be insulted because I’ve been called left-wing, right-wing, liberal or conservative. As if there’s anything wrong with being any of these, and as if stating a position on any given subject even reveals which of these you are.
The facts are that it’s against the Constitution to suppress free speech. This is not a right/left wing statement, it’s just a fact. For all of Shelley’s calls to support America, she shows herself to be the traitor by not adhering to the Constitution. Shame on Shelley.
I may not agree with the point that “America: Freedom to Fascism” has to make, but it certainly is unAmerican not to support its right to make it.
This is funny. The parts I saw have more truth (unFederal Reserve, for instance) than any movie or documentary I’ve ever seen, certainly more than shill michael moore’s crap movies.
Book burning and movie banning. Way to go!
We need a law to outlaw anything but the official story of what happened on 9-11. Holacost denial is illegal in Europe. We need the same laws in America to keep alternative theories about 9-11 from reaching our children.
You people are so blind it’s sad. Can’t you see that America isn’t free anymore. Anytime a US citizen, like Jose Padila, the alleged “Dirty Bomber”, can be held indefinetly, without charge, there’s something truly wrong with that. What about the admitted spying by the gov’t on our private phone conversations? What about “free speech zones”? What about the surveillance cameras going up in evert city in the nation? What about journalists like Chris Bollyn, of American Free Press, getting roughed up police thugs just because he’s investigating the US and Iserali involvement in 911? What about in infingment on the Freedom of Information Act? What about those ridiculous No Fly lists, where thosusands of innocent folks wind up everyday, and alot of them are on the lists because they hold views contrary to what our gov’t wants us to think. WAKE UP!!!! The terror threat is fake. 911 was simply a massive power grab. READ PEOPLE!! It just may save your life. Check out the movie. We are living in a fascist society. How can you miss it? Also check out 911 Scholars for Truth. The truth movement is not made up of crackpots. Expand you minds!!!
More and more censorship proposed by Republicans. It’s not enough that the gov’t cages peaceful protestors, bans books like “America Deceived” from Amazon and fires BYU professor Stephen Jones (because he belives the gov’t was involved in 9/11). Now, the gov’t must squash this movie before the masses realize that they have been unconstituionally paying the gov’t illegal taxes. A revolution is near.
Final link (before Google Books caves to pressure and drops the title):
http://www.iuniverse.com/bookstore/book_detail.asp?&isbn=0-595-38523-0
Ban this movie like they banned Irwin Schiffs book Federal Mafia back in 2004. Welcome to Amerika.
http://www.paynoincometax.com
Irwin’s book was banned so that the rest of us could be kept in the dark about the illegal way the govt collect taxes.
Irwins book can be found in libraries so lets go get it out and burn it.
Shelly, your silence on this issue is deafening! You are just like the rest of the sheeple. You think you know what you are talkign about but you really do not.
THERE IS NO LAW REQUIRING THE AVERAGE WAGE EARNER PAY INCOME TAX.
DAVID
What is the great evil that Hugo Chavez has committed, Shelly? Is it because he has legalized land ownership for the poor? Is it because he has improved health care and education in his country? Is it because he has protected small businesses against gigantic international corporations? Is it because the people of Venezuela have overwhelmingly elected him several times, and see him as the new George Washington of Latin America?
His affiliation with Castro alarms many uninformed conservatives like yourself. Perhaps you weren’t aware of the fact that the most literate nation on Earth is Cuba. They also have the best doctors. Chavez needs health care and education in his country, and he went with the very best. Chavez wants his citizens to be healthy and educated. What’s wrong with that?
As a purported Christian, it may interest you to know that Hugo Chavez has been instrumental in putting an end to Catholic/elitist suppression of protestant Christianity in his country, and that there is an unprecedented growth of independent congregational Christianity in Venezuela during the past few years.
If you have a problem with Chavez, you need to examine yourself to see if you really do believe in the Christian way.
Maybe the real reason you are upset with Hugo Chavez is because he ended Bush family domination of his country’s oil. This caused the robber barons to hate him, and as a dutiful parrot, you are merely reciting what you have been programmed with.
Wake up, Shelly. Get off the broad road that goes to perdition. It’s not too late to head back over to the strait and narrow path that leadeth unto salvation.
WWJH - Who Would Jesus Hate?
Woodrow Wilson (D) outlawed the pain medication heroin,started the income tax (a soak the rich scheme!) & got the US into WWI.England meddled in the Mideast & the US has done the same ever since. Forced war reparations led to Hitler’s rise to power. FDR (D) banned medical marijuana & hemp.Also he forced the common man to pay income tax(intended as a temporary wartime measure!) He also got the US into WWII & allied with Russia which led to the Cold War. LBJ (D) waged a war on poverty(there’s more poverty!) & Vietnam(the US lost & 58,000 American soldiers died!). Wars on poverty,drugs & to liberate the world create new problems!
Clearly Shelley does not understand the meaning of the word Fascism. She should go back to school and study history.
Great news!!!
Aaron’s movie is coming to Phoenix,AZ beginning Oct 6, 2006.
AMERICA FREEDOM TO FASCISM http://www.freedomtofascism.com will be shown
October 6 @ Harkins Valley Art, 505 S. Mill Ave in Tempe. 480-446-7272
See you there!
Shelly The Republican, there’s no such thing as the left/right paradigm in America. The true power struggle in this country is between elites in the government for control of empire and between rival imperial countries. There are other countries conducting war games to get there militaries stronger like China, Russia, and the ‘Stans to try to counter the American empire. A world war might be possible if hostilities between those powers increase. With movies such as America: Freedom to Fascism, it may not be too late to prevent that world war.
Aaron Russo was the runner-up Libertarian Party candidate in the 2004 presidential election. I imagine a neoconned Republicrat such as Shelley can’t tell the difference between an antiwar Libertarian & an antiwar liberal. Antiwar Libertarians don’t want to run up the national debt trying to save the world at gunpoint!
People like Shelly with the ‘big government can do no wrong’ mindset are responsible for the creation of the biggest government in human history under the erstwhile rubric of ‘conservativism.’ Stalin is drooling in his grave over the total federal control the Busheviks have built over the past half decade.
All it took was a couple of hijacked planes for the mouthbreathers to accept Lenin’s communism to save them from Bin Laden’s terrorism. Enjoy cracking the whip at the nearest Halliborton gulag Shelly; but if you want to be taken seriousloy don’t try pretending you’re anything like an American - because little miss Trotskyite you’re the furthest thing from it.
It’s called the American Dream because you have to be asleep to believe it.
Shelly,
I’ll draw your attention to the first amendment of the Constitution:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
When I wrote that antiwar libertarians don’t want to save the world at gunpoint like antiwar liberals do,I was referring to social welfare(Republicrats prefer corporate welfare),hatespeech laws(like Republicrats do to dissent),foreign aid giveaways(like Republicrats do to Israel),UN environmental laws,gun laws(Republicrats want to disarm arabs & muslims) & persecution of the politically incorrect(Republicrats persecute the patriotically incorrect!)!
Fascism: A form of socialism consisting of a welfare state, regulating & heavily taxing small businesses & citizens,corporate welfare,big business influencing legislation,a wide array of victimless crimes to persecute “undesirables”,a growing central government & militarism. I’ve just described the federal government as run by both political parties since the days of FDR!
Nazis destroyed a government building & blamed it on political enemies. Nazis demonized & imprisoned members of a religion which originated in the middle east. Nazis cooked up excuses to invade other nations. Nazis crushed dissent. Nazis banned “degenerate” art,music,literature & films in order to “clean up the culture”. Nazis outlawed the desecration or criticism of their national flag. Nazis arrested anyone who criticized their leader. Nazis controlled the content of radio & newspapers. Nazis indoctrinated schoolchildren. Nazis encouraged snitching & spying on fellow citizens. Is history repeating itself? Did the US defeat foreign fascism in World War II,only to embrace it here?
George W.Bush is a Luciferian socialist globalist whose domestic policies,big spending & big government agenda put him well to the left of JFK! “compassionate conservatism” is Rebublicrat code for socialism! Like the secular Zionazis who pretend to be like Torah believing Jews, this fake Christian lies,deceives & orders the genocidal slaughter of scores of arab & Muslim civilians in their mad quest for domination of the mideast! I will never be “with” such evil psychopaths! The government lied about 9/11 & it was an inside job!
What a bozo with nothing to support her bogus premise that “Cinema Libre Studio has strong ties to the Venezuelan government”! WHERE IS THE PROOF — not a shred = zero credibility for this NEO CON.
Ah, another self proclaimed Rightous American. I wonder which America Shelly represents? or is a part of? It’s not the one the founding fathers left.
I’m a conservative Libertarian. I believe in the right to free speach. I believe in defending the country, (i’m a vet), and I believe that we have a serious problem in this country and its source is Washington D.C.
As for the war on drugs, while I don’t think drugs are good for anyone, I have yet to see a constitutional amendment, that gives the government the authority to tell us what we can or cannot own and consume. We tried that once. And it failed, so we passed another constitutional amendment to repeal the first one. Remember Prohibition? It FAILED.
Shelly, you want to fight poverty? STOP TAXING THE HELL OUT OF US! Arron’s film is talking about 1, ONE, tax out of over 50 listed in the IRC (title 26, the internal revenue code). Why is it Shelly, that you seem to think that the government has an absolute right to the fruits of our labor, and can take as much of it as it wants?
I am willing to financialy support my government, but not when that government refuses to live on a balanced budget, and instead insists on overspending to the point where my great-great-grandchildren will be paying for the wasted spending that was blown last year, which results in an ever increasing tax burden on the American people.
We now pay in taxes, rates compariable to the European nations.
We now pay overall in taxes, the highest rates in our nations history, yet the war on poverty hasn’t made any progress. The war on drugs hasn’t been won - unless you count the millions of people in jail (a further burdon on the taxpayer) as a victory, and we are still TRILLIONS in debt.
Shelly, you need to get your priorites stright.
Greetings from Norway! Some 35 years ago I worked and lived in the US. Prior to that it was my dream to be able to do this and come to the number one country of “freedom” in the world. Since that time I have visited your country more times than I am able to count. I used to argue your position and defend your way of life in groups or parties where the issue of the USA came up. And I did so with passion!
I am sorry to say, - not any more. Something has happened with the number one country of “freedom” in the world. Previously I used to feel a great sense of freedom and respect for my individual rights when putting my feet on your soil. This does not happen any more. Instead I increasingly find myself feeling like it might have been to come to the former USSR many years ago. I find myself saying that if this continues the good old USA will become a police state, if it is not such a place already?
I also more and more question your leaders view of the world. I remember back in the 70?Ǭ¨?Ǭ•s and 80?Ǭ¨?Ǭ•s when friends critizised you and said you were a kind of a “cowboy country” - shooting first and possible asking questions later. I am so sorry to say that I am starting to understand why they said this, although there must be a huge difference between the USA of the 70?Ǭ¨?Ǭ•s and the USA of today.
I used to love you. Now I ask myself, are you cheating on me? I used to say how lucky we all are to have the USA to stand up agains the former USSR. Now I some times find myself feeling a greater sense of freedom when I am in Russia!!
As for the movie you so vividly want to have banned, I am chocked! What a stunning confirmation of the “new” USA you provide by doing so! And to top it off, you are a republican! THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE LEADERS OF THIS PARTY TODAY! You act more and more like the leaders of the old USSR! But you do not see it youself.
And you know what the worst part is? I am sitting here with a very uncomfortable feeling even just writing and soon posting this comment. Perhaps I will end up on some list of possible enemies of the US? Perhaps next time I am visiting your country I will be detained and asked a lot of questions by the immigration people, just as a result of posting THIS!?
Why did you do this to yourself? Why did you do this to all the people in Europe who loved you so much for so many years?
Sorry to be the one to break this to you Shelley, but America, sadly, no longer has a ‘good name’ in the world. That is why it is so crucially important that as many people as possible go and see this movie. And thanks to the efforts of folks such as you, who scream for censorship, many more will be intrigued to find out for themselves.
“I do not agree with what you have to say, but I’ll defend to the death your right to say it.” - Voltaire
Do you have any sources to back up your claims or are you just expressing your opinion here Shelley? Free speech is a big part of America, and by people insisting that they keep their rights of free speech should lead you to the conclusion that they are patriotic to the core instead of liberal cowards and slackers. A coward would be someone who doesn’t stand up for their own rights. A coward would not attempt to hold their government accountable and in check. Every day the Bush administration changes laws to destroy the check and balance system that our founding fathers put so much thought into.
Because I demand that our government stay in a state of checks and balances, does not mean that I no longer wish to fight terrorists. How do you come to these conclusions?? Did you put any thought into them?
These chickenhawk Republicruds think invading a sovreign nation is somehow patriotic but they won’t go there! They talk tough,but are they willing to choke on Depleted Uranium dust while fighting off guerrillas who are fighting foreign invaders & occupiers(from the USA)? They call it murder when a woman in the US has an abortion but when an Iraqi mother & her unborn child are killed by a bomb dropped on them by a USAF pilot,they call it “collateral damage”! They’re not pro-life,they’re pro-death when it comes to arabs & Muslims! Compassionate conservatives? Christians? Jesus didn’t say “Blessed are the warmakers & do war unto others because they might do war unto you!”!
Censorship is Unconstitutional,Unpatriotic & Unamerican! The President is supposed to be a public servant who follows his oath to protect & defend the Constitution of the United States! He isn’t supposed to be a “Leader”(fuhrer),spy on fellow Americans,declare war(that’s the duty of congress according to the Constitution) or do the bidding of globalists! The federal government is supposed to defend our freedoms,national borders & sovreignty! They’re not supposed to further a New World Order agenda!
I understand where you’re coming from, Shelly. It took a lot of soul searching for me to open my mind to possibilities other than what I have thought all my life. I learned that it wasn’t what I knew that was important, but what I didn’t know. I was ignorant and…
?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ?Ignorance is bliss?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ?. We lethargically allow them to keep us ignorant so they can make decisions that are detrimental to our natural evolvement toward a peaceful planet. We cowardly allow them to keep us in fear so they can protect us by taking away our rights. We complacently allow them to keep us dependent upon them for the basic necessities of food, water, shelter, clothing, medicine and transportation. We apathetically allow them to control the technology so they can manipulate us with the media, national I.D. cards, radio frequency microchips, subliminal advertising and psychiatric drugs. We idly allow them to use advances on technology to invade our privacy, modify our behavior, experiment on our citizens with manufactured viruses, and even control the weather. Since 1947, we have indolently allowed them to use our money to invest in warlords, devastating weapons, corporate interests and military incursions in third world countries fortified by insatiable greed and an ominous mission to achieve world dominance. In our fear, we allow governments to lie to us so they can promote an agenda that polarizes the people and divides the nation. We sheepishly allow religions to edify their respective dogmas so they can enslave us in a web of confusion about conspiracy theories and patriotism.
?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ?A house divided cannot stand?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ?, neither can a nation divided. It naively opens the door to welcome a fascist society ruled by a global dictatorship. While we have intense but petty debates about who is to blame; the republicans or the democrats, the liberals or the conservatives, the left or the right, the illegal aliens or the minutemen, the Israelis or the Lebanese, our freedom continues to deteriorate along with our Constitution. Our rights continue to dissolve and our children are being programmed and blatantly robbed of their future. It is so much easier to plead ignorance than to take responsibility. Responsibility ?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¨ Response at your level of ability. You can do that.
Start here: http://www.freedomtofascism.com Do not stop until we have returned our country to its rightful governing body. The people. We, the people must ?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ?form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare and secure the blessings of liberty for ourselves and our posterity.?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ?
Any man or women who claims to take sides of the same coin is just as corrupt as the other. Republican+ Democrates+ Liberals= Corruption as a whole. Chose the truth. Because the direction this countrys going, no one is qualified to make the right choses. This country needs to be saved.
So you’re saying that people should ban a movie…hmmm…ban ideas…sounds like fascism…people should force others not to see it including children…hmmm…sounds like fascism…looks like fascism…hateful movie? i don’t even know what that means…this website is an absolute joke and shelly, who wrote this riduculous article is so scared, and/or contently rich to stand up for freedom like those who came before us that that it is laugably obvious how his/her denial comes through those words…i spent about the minute reading that shaking my head and saying…”give me a break, what world are these people accepting?” Being that far in denial and wasting your life like that is a pathetic state to be in my friend, you better wake up before you die without having lived at all, its ok…you can change your mind…you can search your heart past all those lies you’ve been fed and spit them up…i feel sorry for you, what a loser.
Shelly you’ve got your head up your [foul, un-christian, un American word deleted], and will soon have both feet in you mouth.
Neo-con fascists are ignorant brainless robots. It takes no energy to parrot the lies being spread across Satan’s programing system. Yes you know what that is without me having to say it. Thank the Lord we have the Internet… for as long as that lasts.
GO SEE THE MOVIE!!!! I DID!!!! WHAT AN EYE OPENER!!!
OMG, this movie is an eye-opener. It has NOTHING to do with left or right wing agenda. It simply stats facts that the American people should be aware of. As a father, I want nothing but the best for my daughter, and now that I understand where this country is heading, I can pro activly do something to prevent it!
Words cannot describe this movie. When you see it you will know what I mean.
Shelley, as for your comments, “Now they actually complain that they have to pay taxes”.
No American has a problem with a legal tax system. However, the Supremem Court has found that we cannot be taxed on our labor. That’s all, we can deal with the rest. What’s wrong with American’s demanding a FAIR and JUST system? I want to commend the works of Robert Lawrence. He and others are exposing this Gov’t cover-up!
Want proof, here’s the proof (hold on tight!)
DOJ RELEASES OFFICIAL PRESS RELEASE AGAINST ROBERT LAWRENCE: http://www.usdoj.gov/opa/pr/2002/March/02_tax_121.htm
In March of 2006, a Grand Jury indicted Lawrence of 6 counts of tax evasion from 1999. - The trial began in April http://tinyurl.com/lq3f6 (PDF)
Two months into the trial, all of a sudden the DOJ and IRS want to drop the charges! See for yourself!!
IRS Petition for Dissal: http://tinyurl.com/re3rx (PDF)
Too bad the IRS and DOJ didn’t know that Mr. Lawrence had an experienced tax atty who knows the LAW!
For updates on this case, check out http://tinyurl.com/nm5cx
Anyhow, this is not the only case. Here’s another case:
http://tinyurl.com/86s28
Again, all we ask for as AMERICAN CITIZENS is a FAIR system, is that too much to ask for!!
Oh and by the way for thos who don’t know what RFID means.
Check out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2udoNmQkR4&NR
This is important since our military is now using this on our troops! http://www.gcn.com/print/25_27/41946-1.html - chips being implanted has begun)
Also, do you know what Martial Law looks like??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71Jux68F_AQ&NR
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_9_5aBU33E&NR
We all must take action!!!
Greetings from Norway again!
On the issue of personal taxes in the US: I have heard on more than one occasion, and read the same in different places, - that the INTEREST alone on the debt the US has eats up everything the American people is paying in personal income tax?
I believe Aaron Russo makes a similar claim in his movie somewhere?
Is this realy true? If so, this is just cracy! Can anyone comment on this?
Hi Helge,
Your are 100% correct! If you are interested in watching America: Freedom to Fascism, I have found it playing online. Click on this link:
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/406b963d-a0a5-48e3-bc88-983d008248df.htm
I also found it in Windows Media:
http://www.truthstream.org/video/Freedom.To.Fascism.wmv
Yes, Norway, that is absolutely true and it is an outrage! And, get this, we can never go back to a precious metal standard because there aren’t nearly enough reserves to cover it (well into the low 20 trillions - the media tell you something around 8 trillion).
Shelly is clearly a lost soul wrapped up in wrathful religious fanaticism dogma. She certainly is a disgrace to the former republican party, which no longer exists. This country is in serious trouble and I believe when the imminent financial collapse comes, the U.S. will be
like the former soviet union. The states will end up being little countries.
Need another smoking gun?
http://www.givemeliberty.org/rtplawsuit/simkanin/inouyeletter.pdf
Full Movie on Google Video, please watch and support the film maker!!
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4023196628588378412&hl=en
The United States Government is defined as a federal corporation:
United States Code
TITLE 28 - JUDICIARY AND JUDICIAL PROCEDURE
PART VI - PARTICULAR PROCEEDINGS
CHAPTER 176 - FEDERAL DEBT COLLECTION
PROCEDURE
SUBCHAPTER A - DEFINITIONS AND GENERAL
PROVISIONS
Sec. 3002. Definitions
(15) ”United States” means -
(A) a Federal corporation;
(B) an agency, department, commission, board, or other entity of
the United States; or
(C) an instrumentality of the United States.
(See 26 U.S.C. 3002)
The United States Supreme Court recognizes that one?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥s labor constitutes property. (See Stratton?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥s Indep. v. Howbert, 231 U.S. 399 (1913); Doyle v. Mitchell, 247 U.S. 179 (1920); So. Pacific v. Lowe, 247 U.S. 330 (1918); Eisner v. Macomber, 252 U.S. 189 (1920); Merchant?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥s Loan v. Smietanka, 255 U.S. 509 (1921).) (Ex. 065, 066, 067, 054, 068.)
The United States Supreme Court stated in Butchers?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥ Union Co. v. Crescent City Co., 111 U.S. 746, 757 (concurring opinion of Justice Fields) (1883), that:
It has been well said that, “The property which every man has in his own labor, as it is the original foundation of all other property, so it is the most sacred and inviolable.”
15. The United States Supreme Court recognizes that contracts of employment constitute property. [See Stratton?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥s Indep. v. Howbert, 231 U.S. 399 (1913); Doyle v. Mitchell, 247 U.S. 179 (1920); So. Pacific v. Lowe, 247 U.S. 330 (1918); Eisner v. Macomber, 252 U.S. 189 (1920); Merchant?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥s Loan v. Smietanka, 255 U.S. 509 (1921); Butchers?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥ Union Co. v. Crescent City Co., 111 U.S. 746, 757 (concurring opinion of
Justice Fields) (1883)]
The United States Supreme Court stated in Coppage v. Kansas, 236 U.S. 1, 14 (1914) that: “The principle is fundamental and vital. Included in the right of personal liberty and the right of private property–partaking of the nature of each–is the right to make contracts for the acquisition of property. Chief among such contracts is that of personal employment, by which labor and other services are exchanged for money or other forms of property.”
The United States Supreme Court recognizes that a contract for labor is a contract for the sale of property. [See Stratton?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥s Indep. v. Howbert, 231 U.S. 399 (1913); Doyle v. Mitchell, 247 U.S. 179 (1920); So. Pacific v. Lowe, 247 U.S. 330 (1918); Eisner v. Macomber, 252 U.S. 189 (1920); Merchant?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥s Loan v. Smietanka, 255 U.S. 509 (1921); Butchers?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥ Union Co. v. Crescent City Co., 111 U.S. 746, 757 (concurring opinion of Justice Fields) (1883).]
The United States Supreme Court has stated in Adair v. United States, 208 U.S. 161, 172 (1908) that:
In our opinion that section, in the particular mentioned, is an invasion of the personal liberty, as well as of the right of property, guaranteed by that Amendment (5th Amendment). Such liberty and right embraces the right to make contracts for the purchase of the labor of others and equally the right to make contracts for the sale of one?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥s own labor.
“Peonage” is a condition of servitude compelling a man or woman or woman to perform labor in order to pay off a debt. (See Black?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥s Law Dictionary, 6th Ed., West Publishing Co. 1990, p. 1135.)
Thomas Jefferson, one of our founding fathers and author of our Declaration of Independence, said the following:
“I sincerely believe… that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies, and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity under the name of funding is but swindling futurity on a large scale.” –Thomas Jefferson to John Taylor, 1816. ME 15:23
“Funding I consider as limited, rightfully, to a redemption of the debt within the lives of a majority of the generation contracting it; every generation coming equally, by the laws of the Creator of the world, to the free possession of the earth He made for their subsistence, unencumbered by their predecessors, who, like them, were but tenants for life.” –Thomas Jefferson to John Taylor, 1816. ME 15:18
“[The natural right to be free of the debts of a previous generation is] a salutary curb on the spirit of war and indebtment, which, since the modern theory of the perpetuation of debt, has drenched the earth with blood, and crushed its inhabitants under burdens ever accumulating.” –Thomas Jefferson to John Wayles Eppes, 1813. ME 13:272
“We believe–or we act as if we believed–that although an individual father cannot alienate the labor of his son, the aggregate body of fathers may alienate the labor of all their sons, of their posterity, in the aggregate, and oblige them to pay for all the enterprises, just or unjust, profitable or ruinous, into which our vices, our passions or our personal interests may lead us. But I trust that this proposition needs only to be looked at by an American to be seen in its true point of view, and that we shall all consider ourselves unauthorized to saddle posterity with our debts, and morally bound to pay them ourselves; and consequently within what may be deemed the period of a generation, or the life of the majority.” –Thomas Jefferson to John Wayles Eppes, 1813. ME 13:357
“It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. A principle which if acted on would save one-half the wars of the world.” –Thomas Jefferson to A. L. C. Destutt de Tracy, 1820. FE 10:175
“To preserve [the] independence [of the people,] we must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt. We must make our election between economy and liberty, or profusion and servitude. If we run into such debts as that we must be taxed in our meat and in our drink, in our necessaries and our comforts, in our labors and our amusements, for our callings and our creeds, as the people of England are, our people, like them, must come to labor sixteen hours in the twenty-four, give the earnings of fifteen of these to the government for their debts and daily expenses, and the sixteenth being insufficient to afford us bread, we must live, as they now do, on oatmeal and potatoes, have no time to think, no means of calling the mismanagers to account, but be glad to obtain subsistence by hiring ourselves to rivet their chains on the necks of our fellow-sufferers.” –Thomas Jefferson to Samuel Kercheval, 1816. ME 15:39
“Peonage” is a form of involuntary servitude prohibited by the Thirteenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States. [See Clyatt v. United States, 197 U.S. 201 (1905)]
The U.S. Congress abolished peonage in 1867. (See 42 U.S.C. 1994; R.S. Section 1990, Act of Mar. 2, 1867, c. 187, Section 1, 14 Stat. 546.) 81. Holding or returning any person to a condition of peonage is a crime under 18 U.S.C. 1581. (See 18 U.S.C. 1581)
Involuntary servitude means a condition of servitude in which the victim is forced to work for another by use or threat of physical restraint or injury, or by the use or threat of coercion through law or legal process. [See Clyatt v. United States, 197 U.S. 201 (1905); Bailey v. Alabama, 219 U.S. 219 (1910); United States v. Kozminski, 487 U.S. 931 (1988)]
Go here:
http://causapatet.blogspot.com/2006/09/statement-of-facts-and-beliefs.html
Then click on the heading to read all 80 pages. PDF
Everything about Shelley’s post is wrong. Also, I don’t think it is a coincidence that almost every post agreeing with Shelley has at least one misspelled word. Ha.
THEY FEAR THE TRUTH, GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH!
When the people fear the government you have tyranny. When the government fears the people you have liberty.
Let’s put the government back into fear! Let it meet with the same level of fear that Shelly has for adults who see this movie and may find an opinion contrary to hers.
EVERYONE I JUST WATCHED THIS MOVIE AMERICA: FREEDOM TO FASCISM AND SHELLEY IS RIGHT. THIS IS A MOVIE TO PREVENT OTHERS FROM SEEING, NOT A MOVIE TO BE SEEN YOURSELF. IF WE THE PEOPLE CAN’T MAKE MOVIES THAT SUPPORT OUR GREAT GWB, WE SHOULDN’T HAVE THE RIGHT TO MAKE MOVIES AT ALL.
SUPPORT SHELLEY BY NOT WATCHING THIS MOVIE, NOT GOING TO THE WEBSITE HTTP://WWW.FREEDOMTOFASCISM.COM , BY NOT THINKING ABOUT THIS TOPIC ANYMORE AND BEHAVING LIKE THE WHOLE THING NEVER HAPPENED.
REAL AMERICANS DON’T NEED TO FIND ANSWERS, THEY COME FROM THE GOVERNMENT!
My dear Shelly,
Why I’m addressing you is something to ponder for myself. It is obvious that you are oblivious to all the well intentioned people trying to persuade you to change your postition. You will not. You have not read the many posts that have expressed in so many ways the obvious truth for your benefit. And still, you cannot, or rather will not, take them to heart. To do so, you would need the courage to examine your own thinking, which you don’t do. Your thinking is not your own. Fundamental Christians have the most difficulty opening their hearts and minds to any truth that challenges their belief system. I know. I was one. But, you are “born again by the renewal of your MIND.” The only people it is more difficult for are fundamental Christians…….from Oklahoma.
The truth is abundant on your own website, girl. Is God trying to tell you something through people who care enough to write to you.
Dan Wilder
I have just read a comment from Dan Wilder in my mailbox, although I was not able to find here. Nevertheless, he talked about Shelly as a born again Christian? - and claimed that it is a problem for such people to open their minds and eyes to the truth in regard to the issues being discussed here?
I strongly disagree with you Dan! I am myself a born again Christian and have born again Christians as friends in the US as well as in Australia, and they have all been able to see the serious problems with what is going on in the US today. In fact, one born-again Christian friend in Florida, says: “I am not, sorry to say, proud to be an American any more!”
I pray to God that everything happening in your country and in the world today, is all part of His plan in some way and that we will never really see America as “police state!”
The excellent website http://www.hourofthetime.com tells the truth about the New World Order fascist agenda. Also check out these sites: http://www.rbnlive.com , http://www.franklyspeakingradio.com , http://www.whatreallyhappened.com , http://lewrockwell.com , http://www.adventuresinlegalland.com & http://www.strike-the-root.com
Shelly, still, you have NOT pointed out one “lie” from this movie. Put up or shut up.
A great antiwar Libertarian website is http://www.antiwar.com but I doubt Shelley would even go there or any sites I’ve mentioned previously! If it differs from Fox News,Republicrats think it’s left-wing “Hate America Firsters” or some other kind of loony radicalism that Dubya lovers want to censor!
TO: Helge Normann ~
Thank you for your response to my post. I was not able to e-mail you directly, so I’m posting this in hopes you will have the opportunity to read it here.
I appologize for the lack of clarification in my original text.
In my post, I did not say that born again Christians had a difficulty in accepting truth. I used the term Fundamental Christians.
In my mind, the connotation of the phrase “born-again Christian” and “Fundamental Christian” have different applications. What blurs these “titles”, however, is that Fundamental Christians will claim they are born again. The point I was making was in the bibical quote, “born again by the renewal of your mind.” A born again Christian would be able to recognize and accept the truth by the renewal of his/her mind, whereas a Fundamentalist is locked into an unchangeable belief system.
I’m certainly splitting definitive hairs here, no doubt. And, perhaps the split is my own personal discernment and may very well be nonexistent in another’s view. I hope this clarifies my intent. I will be more concise in any future posts. Thanks for the heads-up.
Dan Wilder
Well…
I have been monitoring this site for several months now reading and watching what comes to light on this topic.
I?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥ve come to the realization that ?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ?shelley the republican?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ? is nothing more than a figment of the government?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥s perverse imagination, designed and orchestrated to debunk the truth and logic of what Aaron Russo?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥s movie ?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ?Freedom To Fascism?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ? truly stands for.
I believe this site is merely a way to gather information and feedback (consensus) on what Americans know and believe about the current tax laws, federal reserve system, etc.
Also, from the posts I have read so far, I am PROUD to see that many Americans are knowledgeable and understand what is happening in America today in how the federal government no longer represents ?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ?We The People?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ? or the ?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ?Constitution?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ? as they have sworn under oath to defend so help them GOD.
I do not believe we will ever get a reply from shelley the republican.
It is safe to say from all the replies that Americans are more awake than ever before in history!
NOW IS THE TIME TO RISE UP AND STOP THE TYRANNEY, BEFORE IT?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ?S TOO LATE!!!
Shelley,
Where have you gone? Your silence is so unbelievably deafening! You make me SICK!
As you can see, more people are waking up to the Political FRAUDS!
Its no coincidence that the Governments are trying to gain power of the internet! They know that the internet is the enemy of Fascism!
Without it a large chunk of Truths and evidence and FREE SPEECH will be lost.
http://www.savetheinternet.com
Shelley, get a clue. Read your Constitution and the Bill of Rights. And some history, too, while you’re at it.
This movie has nothing to do with being liberal or republican. It has to do with protecting important rights such as the freedom to say anything, even unintelligent things like, “America : Freedom to Fascism? Liberal Hatespeech!” Wake up.
Much love,
PC
Gee…it seems as if our dear friend Shelley evaporated into virtual dust, not unlike all that steel and concrete from the WTC’s. Or maybe she’s one of those super-righteous souls who finally got herself “raptured”, probably as a reward for her super-righteous warning about the dangers of watching “America: Freedom to Fasciasm?”, and hence, the need to ban it at all cost.
Well, if she did get raptured, I’m sure she’ll be sitting there, right next to G-d, tellimg Him exactly what to do to fix this world. I can hardly wait.
;-)
Don’t talk crazy Evaporated…
Shelley is alive and well. We’ve just been discussing who we will mention in our prayers this evening. I’m going to add you! I’ll ask God to Bless you and be merciful to you, but also to PUNISH your sins and probably kill you.
I wish you well though!
Well, gee, thanks Sam Johnston. That sure sounds fair to me. (And I’ll be sure to return the favor!)
It is GREAT to see SOOOOO many positive responses about this movie on this extreme rightwing website. It really says a lot about the real mindset of Americans and people in general. The people who are supportive of the government as it is now are truly brainwashed. Truly. What else explains their thinking? They have been fully indoctrinated into a system that was designed to control their thoughts, emotions and actions. The school system. Just another part of the NWO agenda. This movie MUST be shown in all schools immediately. It must be shown to everyone. Everywhere. These things not only happen in the US, they happen in almost EVERY country on earth. Banksters control the planet and have for a VERY long time. We have just been asleep and they fear the waking giant that is the human population. They will do and say whatever it takes to put us back to sleep. Wakeup and smell the flesh burning at the death camps……just around the corner. It is only a choice. Make the right one!
It unfortunate when a party who is always after tax cuts, and that is considered “American” but to actually have a basis that the tax might be unlawful is “un-American”. Then they want to call the Dem’s wobbler’s or waffler’s whatever ot os they say.
Also note this has absolutely nothing to do with politics, and everything to do with the tax law and what is says. What is “Domestic Taxable income”
If you would believe that the tax law is unlawful does that make the democrats the bad guys for usually pushing taxes for public services?
Government would fail, well according to research if this wasnt a collected tax, they still would haul in over 800 Billion.
A lot of people may not be aware of the real reason that JFK
got his head blown off. It happened shortly after he started
talking about dismantling the Federal Reserve. Dont take my
word for it. All the info is readily available online. May(fill
in your supreme being of choice here] bless Arron Russo!!!
Is this the same dr bombay from moontribe?
I always wondered if the death of JFK had anything to do with his denial of Operation Northwoods!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods
Operation Northwoods set the pretexts for military intervention against Cuba. It stated that the US would:
** Firebombing and sinking an American ship at the Guantanamo Bay American military base ?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?É¬Æ reminiscent of the USS Maine incident at Havana in 1898, which started the Spanish-American War ?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?É¬Æ or destroy American aircraft and blame it on Cuban forces. (The document’s first suggestion regarding the sinking of a U.S. ship is to blow up a manned ship and hence would result in U.S. Navy members being killed, with a secondary suggestion of possibly using unmanned drones and fake funerals instead.)
** “Harassment of civil air, attacks on surface shipping and destruction of US military drone aircraft by MIG type sic planes would be useful as complementary actions.”
** Destroying an unmanned drone masquerading as a commercial aircraft supposedly full of “college students off on a holiday”. This proposal was the one supported by the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
** Staging a “terror campaign”, including the “real or simulated” sinking of Cuban refugees
Best of ALL: Operation Northwoods, which had the written approval of the Chairman and every member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, called for innocent people to be shot on American streets; for boats carrying refugees fleeing Cuba to be sunk on the high seas; for a wave of violent terrorism to be launched in Washington, D.C., Miami, and elsewhere. People would be framed for bombings they did not commit; planes would be hijacked. Using phony evidence, all of it would be blamed on Castro, thus giving Lemnitzer and his cabal the excuse, as well as the public and international backing, they needed to launch their war.
9/11 Operation Northwoods II?? ;)
Shelly, you’re not too bright are you?
Firstly, the facts speak for themselves. There is NO LAW for personal income tax and personal income tax is unconstitutional.
It’s time you woke up and smelled the coffee.. This is not about liberalism or communism or being a democrat, this movie is about the consistent eroding for freedomgs in America.
If there’s any banning needed to be done, it’s you and this crap website.
As they say in Australia… FOAD.
die republican scum!!
LOL!!! Nice “review”, Shelly (or whoever you are).
The movie is opening in numerous cities almost as I type this. Thanks for the publicity, babe.
EVERYONE GO SEE “AMERICA: FREEDOM TO FASCISM” — and take some friends!
Wellllll I was gonna say something witty about Shelly’s …uh, well I was going to say review but she hasnt seen it sooo…seeing ‘freedom to fascism’ is akin to yelling ‘fire’ in a theater? I wish I were capable of enormous leaps of logic like that…
Did you know that the pledge of allegiance was written in 1892 by a socialist minister who was heavily into nationalism & militarism(proto-nazi) & originally a Nazi style salute was done while facing the flag? Go to http://rexcurry.net/stopthepledge.html & see for yourself! Did you also know that Nazi eugenics programs were borrowed from US eugenics programs which began here at the turn of the last century? Google “US eugenics” & discover the truth! Also Google “Operation Paper Clip” & find out how the US government harbored Nazis & borrowed ideas from them after World War II! This nation has been subjected to creeping fascism for over a century! This isn’t “liberal hate speech”, it’s the unpleasant truth!
Well, since the subject of “brainwashing” has been brought out, some of you may enjoy these articles on that very subject by Dennis L. Cuddy, Ph.D., entitled: MENTAL HEALTH, EDUCATION AND SOCIAL CONTROL.
You may find the link to these articles at my Blog at:
http://causapatet.blogspot.com/2006/01/welcome-to-new-world-order-of-thought.html
I would also encourage all of you … including Shelley … to read up on the United Nations Agenda 21 (21st century) of which your “government” (spit) is signatory to. You can find the link to this at:
http://causapatet.blogspot.com/2006/08/new-world-order.html
So Shelley does not think I am some cry baby dripping liberal, as defined by todays standard … I believe every adult should be allowed to be armed and carry, if they so choose. I believe that an unborn child is a human being and it is murder to kill an unborn child. I believe in America as EXEMPLIFIED in the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution of the united States of America and the first 10 admendments. I believe if there are no injured parties … then their can be no law or grievance. I believe you have the “right” to your beliefs … Shelley … but I sure as hell AM NOT going to give my life for your right to believe in your own nonsense. I believe in the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and that Jesus is the Son of God, givin to us as a sacrifice for our sins if we believe and call upon His name.
I believe, that every man, woman and child in the United States is a criminal in one form or another by all the laws, codes, regulations, statutes, public policy, treaties, executive orders and ad puke that all the loones in “government” whether federal, state, county or local has dreamed up and spit out “for the good of us.” And whether you admit it or not … we are the most regulated peoples on the planet earth! Thanks to the dumbocrats. Thanks to the repukelicans. It doesn’t matter what party you or “they” sit upon dear girl … they are all responsible!
I wish I could stay a little civil … but frankly my dear … you are a pathetic excuse for a Real American!
Do I love America? Yes, I do! But that does NOT mean I must love my “government” to love America.
Obviously Shelley, you are a product of an education imposed on you by … who do you think? Please show us Shelley, where the “government” is delegated the authority to even be involved with our public schools? Show me, us, Shelley, where the “government” may take my property, which is my labor as delegated to them by the constitution?
You see dear girl, the constitution delegates AUTHORITY. Anything NOT DELEGATED to the federal government is WHAT … dear girl? Now, go and read the constitution you haven’t read in years and come back and give us all an example of where the “government” has exceeded the delegated authority of the Constitution of the united States of America.
But you won’t … go hang your head in shame. And Shelley … welcome to the 21st century. The century of the New World Order.
Candidate Bush Jr.: “There ought to be limits to freedom.” (1999)
“President Clinton: We can’t be so fixated on our desire to preserve the rights of ordinary Americans.” (1993)
President Bush (Daddy): “Out of these troubled times… a New World Order can emerge….” (1992)
Adolf Hitler: “Through clever and constant application of propaganda people can be made to see paradise as hell, and also the other way around, to consider the most wretched sort of life as paradise.” Mein Kampf, 1923
President Bush Jr.: “See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda.” (May 25, 2005)
On 9/28/98, Rep. Bob Barr (R-GA), one of the leading early exponents of impeaching Bill Clinton, released a memorandum exposing a huge police state power grab by Bill Clinton and his Attorney General, Janet Reno.
Barr obtained the information from a confidential source within federal law enforcement. Among other things, the Department’s `wish list’ for new authority includes:
A vastly expanded definition of terrorism to include domestic crimes having no relationship to terrorism.
The power to seize commercial transportation assets for federal use.
The ability to commandeer personnel from other federal agencies without reimbursement.
Expanded wiretap authority to allow `roving’ wiretaps, and wiretaps without any court authority.
Enlarged asset forfeiture provisions to allow the FBI to seize personal property in both criminal and civil matters.
The establishment of a permanent “FBI Police Force”.
Loosening of Posse Comitatus restrictions to allow more military involvement in domestic law enforcement. [...Waco times ten!]
Authority to force telephone and Internet companies to divulge information on their customers.
(Note: This was accomplished in Patriot Acts I & II, and the ‘Victory’ Act under the Bush administration.)
You see people, this wasn’t just something conjured up right after the so called 911 incident … it was hiding its ugly head in the dark shadows waiting for an excuse to see the light. Imagine what else is hiding in the dark just for you.
Dispute Shelley?
P.S. Shelley,
Start your education here:
http://elsinore.cis.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/18th.htm
And in the case of you being to lazy to look up the Declaration of Independence, Constitution and 10 admendments … I paste it here just for you:
Here is your Republic. The Republic that YOU refused to keep. The Republic that YOU refused to defend. The Republic that YOU allowed to be taken from you. All in the name of the children. All in the name of safety. All in the name of YOUR global villiage. All in the name of protecting your … freedom?
Ok … here is your lesson today. After reading all of the below, name at least one freedon and liberty that has been taken from you. Name one article or section that has been usurped by your “government.” Now, re-read the whole thing again. Find anything else?
Declaration of Independence: July 4, 1776
When in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the laws of nature and of nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident:
That all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness; that, to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed; that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security. Such has been the patient sufferance of these colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former systems of government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute tyranny over these states. To prove this, let facts be submitted to a candid world.
He has refused his assent to laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.
He has forbidden his governors to pass laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his assent should be obtained; and, when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.
He has refused to pass other laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of representation in the legislature, a right inestimable to them, and formidable to tyrants only.
He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.
He has dissolved representative houses repeatedly, for opposing, with manly firmness, his invasions on the rights of the people.
He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the legislative powers, incapable of annihilation, have returned to the people at large for their exercise; the state remaining, in the mean time, exposed to all the dangers of invasions from without and convulsions within.
He has endeavored to prevent the population of these states; for that purpose obstructing the laws for naturalization of foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migration hither, and raising the conditions of new appropriations of lands.
He has obstructed the administration of justice, by refusing his assent to laws for establishing judiciary powers.
He has made judges dependent on his will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.
He has erected a multitude of new offices, and sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.
He has kept among us, in times of peace, standing armies, without the consent of our legislatures.
He has affected to render the military independent of, and superior to, the civil power.
He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our Constitution and unacknowledged by our laws, giving his assent to their acts of pretended legislation:
For quartering large bodies of armed troops among us;
For protecting them, by a mock trial, from punishment for any murders which they should commit on the inhabitants of these states;
For cutting off our trade with all parts of the world;
For imposing taxes on us without our consent;
For depriving us, in many cases, of the benefits of trial by jury;
For transporting us beyond seas, to be tried for pretended offenses;
For abolishing the free system of English laws in a neighboring province, establishing therein an arbitrary government, and enlarging its boundaries, so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these colonies;
For taking away our charters, abolishing our most valuable laws, and altering fundamentally the forms of our governments;
For suspending our own legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.
He has abdicated government here, by declaring us out of his protection and waging war against us.
He has plundered our seas, ravaged our coasts, burned our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.
He is at this time transporting large armies of foreign mercenaries to complete the works of death, desolation, and tyranny already begun with circumstances of cruelty and perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the head of a civilized nation.
He has constrained our fellow-citizens, taken captive on the high seas, to bear arms against their country, to become the executioners of their friends and brethren, or to fall themselves by their hands.
He has excited domestic insurrection among us, and has endeavored to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers the merciless Indian savages, whose known rule of warfare is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes, and conditions.
In every stage of these oppressions we have petitioned for redress in the most humble terms; our repeated petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A prince, whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.
Nor have we been wanting in our attentions to our British brethren. We have warned them, from time to time, of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity; and we have conjured them, by the ties of our common kindred, to disavow these usurpations which would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too, have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity which denounces our separation, and hold them as we hold the rest of mankind, enemies in war, in peace friends.
We, therefore, the representatives of the United States of America, in General Congress assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the name and by the authority of the good people of these colonies solemnly publish and declare, That these United Colonies are, and of right ought to be, FREE AND INDEPENDENT STATES; that they are absolved from all allegiance to the British crown and that all political connection between them and the state of Great Britain is, and ought to be, totally dissolved; and that, as free and independent states, they have full power to levy war, conclude peace, contract alliances, establish commerce, and do all other acts and things which independent states may of right do. And for the support of this declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.
THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES
We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
Article I
Section 1. All legislative powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives.
Section 2. The House of Representatives shall be composed of members chosen every second year by the people of the several states, and the electors in each state shall have the qualifications requisite for electors of the most numerous branch of the state legislature.
No person shall be a Representative who shall not have attained to the age of twenty five years, and been seven years a citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an inhabitant of that state in which he shall be chosen.
Representatives and direct taxes shall be apportioned among the several states which may be included within this union, according to their respective numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole number of free persons, including those bound to service for a term of years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons. The actual Enumeration shall be made within three years after the first meeting of the Congress of the United States, and within every subsequent term of ten years, in such manner as they shall by law direct. The number of Representatives shall not exceed one for every thirty thousand, but each state shall have at least one Representative; and until such enumeration shall be made, the state of New Hampshire shall be entitled to chuse three, Massachusetts eight, Rhode Island and Providence Plantations one, Connecticut five, New York six, New Jersey four, Pennsylvania eight, Delaware one, Maryland six, Virginia ten, North Carolina five, South Carolina five, and Georgia three.
When vacancies happen in the Representation from any state, the executive authority thereof shall issue writs of election to fill such vacancies.
The House of Representatives shall choose their speaker and other officers; and shall have the sole power of impeachment.
Section 3. The Senate of the United States shall be composed of two Senators from each state, chosen by the legislature thereof, for six years; and each Senator shall have one vote.
Immediately after they shall be asse