xxxchurch.com: Don’t they know that Pornography and Christianity are two very different things?
My fellow Americans,
It?s not often that the words “Christian” and “evil-doer” have to go in the same sentence ? and certainly not the words “Christian” and “foul-sex-porno-filth-perversion”. But today I have to draw your attention to an alarming and utterly wrong group of renegades who call themselves men of Christ, but seem to be doing the work of Satan. I talk ? and prepare yourself for a shock when you see this abomination ? of the XXXchurch. That?s right: a “Christian church” of pornography. (They have a website ? www.xxxchurch.com. Don?t click on it! It?s too degraded!)
I?m not going to editorialise on this subject ? because (a) it enrages me so much (b) it?s simple enough to condemn them using their own words. Good Christian Americans won?t need to be told that the extracts from the xxx.church.com website that follow constitute an outrage and insult to the name of Our Lord, Jesus Christ.
First, the two men who run the site (they call themselves “The Goofballs” presumably in reference to one of the sick perverted practices they like to indulge in) have included on their site a list of “Targets” for their foul XXXchurch material. Top of their list are “teenagers”. (This is against the law as well as against God). Second they want to attract people they call “Dabblers”. (I don?t want to think about who these people are and what they do). Third, and most outrageous of all these agents of evil say they want to get the attention of “The Church And Church Leaders”. (Whatever for, unless to lead them down the path to the Devil?)
I wonder in fact, if this site is some kind of devil-ploy to trick good Christians and Republicans of the path of righteousness. Is it in fact another of the countless abuses of the internet and freedom that we see so often and that aim to keep Americans away from the true truth?
Anyway, here are some more of the claims made on this absurd site. They say they have a spokesperson called “Rex The Rabbit”. I suspect that this thing is named after a so-called “sex toy” whose purpose I won?t even mention on a good Christian website such as STR.com
They claim that they raise the money to run their site by “stealing, begging and borrowing”. Do they think that that?s something to be proud of? Shameful!
They say :
“we refuse to have this be your typical Christian [foul word deleted] website with crosses and bibles all over the place and communicating things that most in the world can’t relate to.”
What?!
Finally, they pose this question:
“How come no one is talking about sex, porno, hot chicks and all the other things that we deal with on a daily basis at church on Sunday mornings?”
I can answer that for you, XXXchurch.com! It’s because non-perverts don?t deal with these things on a daily basis. What?s more on a Sunday morning we?re all too busy talking about The Lord God and his Only Son Jesus Christ!
XXXchurch, I?m sorry if this upsets you (actually, I?m not!) but frankly, in Church, I don?t want to hear about sex, nor porno, nor hot chicks, nor inter-racial dwarf unholy man-love, nor hot young and willing mothers, nor climate change, nor down-on-the-farm-action, nor voting for Al Gore, nor any other such liberal perversions. I?m sure most good Christian conservatives don?t want to hear about this foul stuff either. And certainly not in God?s house! Nor do we want to know about bathtubs full of Japanese hussies blasting vomit and feces out of their nether regions. (That’s what liberals enjoy seeing. It?s disgusting.) People who look at these sites should probably have their eyes pulled out. Of course, my fear then would be that some liberal porno-pervert would be filming the whole process and try to sell it on the intenet to young children and Christian preachers.
Ugh!
What a sick world these liberals want to build.
Yours in Jesus,
Sam Johnston
Images from www.erosblog.com and www.rotten.com. (Christians beware of these sites!)
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“game over” … adulterism and masturbation are sanctionned, not pornography.
Adam & Eve were supposed to live naked and that wasn’t a problem.
It’s since light age with Voltaire that naked people and public sex is considered as *wrong*.
Putting jesus head on the picture above to censurate it is extremely blasphemous. Couldn’t it have been black boxes or maybe no picture at all?
You’ll burn in hell for that.
Dear “Evil_Tux”,
You’ll notice that Our Lord is looking the other way. I see no problem in using his beautiful image to protect us from such abominations if he remains in a state of blissful grace.
Meanwhile, i don’t think you’re in much of a position to decide who goes to hell or not. That’s St Peter’s job (with a little help from God and Jeus of course!). And unless you want to tick him off, I’d suggest you watch what you’re typing.
“He rebukes the sea and makes it dry,
And dries up all rivers
Bashan and Carmel wither,
And the flower of Lebanon wilts.”
Nahum 1:4
Think on, “Evil_Tux”. Think on.
I’m a bit surprised that you know sites like xxxchurch.com, rotten.com, and erosblog.com in the first place — especially the last one is very entertaining, btw.
But yet you guys here have no problem saying Jesus carries a gun is an American and enjoys killing? Now come on who is really the degenrate here?
I wanna see the titties! Just love em! Gotta see em!!! Be a man you pinko liberal and show us these boobs!!
Danny Crane
religion is opium for the masses. it keeps them busy and distracted with endless theological discussions while they don’t notice being surpressed.
god died when the first politician entered a church
shelly, oh shelly, how can you be so retarded shelly.
the xxxchurch.com is website TO HELP CHRISTIANS WHO ARE ADDICTED TO PORN.
you understand teh concept, go on the forums, read what everyone is talking about, you dumb cunt, they talk about their porn addictions and how they need support and prayer
how can you turn entire stories arround, how can you be so naive as to think you understand what the site is by just looking at the URL
the last comment was what you caused me to say, it enrages ME beyond words, it keeps me awake at night, to think shelly the republican is lying to the whole world “only” out her own bullheadedness and blind ignorance.
please shelly, i beg of you to stop beign so closeminded and “biased” i beg of you to take a look at the forums in xxxchurch.com.
perhaps the saddest part of the whole story is that i know plenty of people like you, i bet you wont go, i bet you will stay in denial just for the sake of your own feelings.
its sad shelly, its very sad that you dont realize you make an ass of yourself publicaly to millions
if i believed in religion id definately pray for you shelly, you and your two working braincells need it
Dear Danny Crane,
This site is a pink-free zone. How can we possibly make this any clearer?
I will pray for you,
Michael.
For once I partialy agree with you.
I’m so sorry, we seem to live in a country known as “America”. In this country we have something known as “freedom of religion”. I know these are new terms for you to understand, so I suggest you shoot yourself in the head as your mind is already to disorted by republican propoganda to ever recover.
Dear “Spine”,
Shame on you. Do you liberals have to twist everything to fit your insane agenda? And Christians don’t get addicted to porn anyway.
Dear Pkarm,
I think it is you who are degenerate. If you had read this site properly, you would know that Jesus is not an American, he just wants to live here. That’s why Shelley is running a campaign to grant him a visa. And of course jesus is armed and ready. Have you not read the Bible? Have you not seen him dealing with all those demons? He does not take prisoners. Have you not read Revelation? Does he not come with a sword? Are you denying God Pkarm? You sound like a liberal to me, if only you knew it. Luke 18:7: “And shall not God avenge His Own elect…”
Dear “Einamliger”,
I refer you to an earlier article written on unholy vice and pornography by Shelley. Everything you need to know is contained in those fine words:
http://www.shelleytherepublican.com/2005/12/07/societys-worst-sickness-porn.aspx
Dear Michael,
Thank you! Finally someone talking some sense.
Dear NoDeca,
God isn’t dead, you blasphemer.
Dear Fiend,
I don’t like your name, but I partially like your attitude.
Dear “Bob The Builder”,
Suicide is a crime in God’s eyes. I shall exercise my freedom of religion to ignore your crazed liberal ranting.
God Bless You All.
See Shelly, i agree with Spine! Have you stayed long enough on XXXchurch to realise whats it about??? When I first heard about it i was yes shocked but then my youth pastor explained to me what it was and how it will help me!!! Go back and have a look at it! And i never want to see xxxchurch in a line with rotten.com or erosblog again!
One group of Christians moaning about another group of Christians about who is going to hell? Way to go guys!
All these differing beliefs are confusing, so let’s simplify:
you’re all fucking loonies
thats it, i give up on trying to help to the “biased”.
Dear Fiend,
I don?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥t like your name, but I partially like your attitude.
No you don’t.
Goodness gracious!!!!!!
For one thing Jesus doesn’t actually bring a sword it is symbolic for God’s word.
Also Jesus talked much about forgiveness. Read Matthew 6:14,15
In Romans 12:14 he says bless those who persecute you; bless and do not curse.
Jesus is all about love and none of us are perfect therefore we can be addicted to pornography!!! If we were perfect then we wouldn’t need Jesus in the first place.
Also XXXchurch has helped lead many people back to the path of righteouness (sp) they are teaching people that pornography and other such things are wrong which are glorified in most of todays society. A sight like this a person addicted to sin would not take a second look at because there is no help to be had here!
Um Dizzle,
Goodness Gracious to you too!!!!
For one thing, all this talk of symbolism and metaphors is a typical liberal canard (look it up!)… As if we can pick and choose what it real and what is not in God’s word! I ask you: if we don’t believe it all literally, why believe any of it at all? It’s a logical inconsistency and an affront to God.
Also, Jesus talked about casting out demons and sinners falling from his sight. Read the whole New testament.
Jesus is all about guns and revenge and the sooner you liberals realise it, the sooner we can start tidying things up around here.
xxxchurch is just fowl (sp)… and I’m sorry the rest of what you are saying doesn’t make sense. Stupid liberal.
Dear Fiend,
Yes I do, and you don’t tell me what I do and don’t do, Jesus does.
Sam you are so clueless Jesus Christ is not about guns and revenge. Your ignorance in our Lord and Savior is disguting. Maybe stop reading the King James version and read the real Bibke and you will gain a better understanding.
xxxchurch is not a porn site. It is there to help people with addictions to porn.
Did any of you considered the handy form of the cross for certain purposes ?
Dear Pkarm,
To say Jesus Christ isn’t about guns and revenge is deeply unpatriotic. You take the justification for the (very just) wars in Iraq and Afghanistan away for a start - Ridiculous! Everyone knows George Bush is doing God’s will and America deserves to punish these muslims that hate freedom.
And, out of interest which is the real Bible, according to you? If you’re talking about the demotic Greek verstion, I’m impressed at your scholarship - better than mine. i had to use a dictionary and crib when I read it in Greek.
Sam johnston.. Good ole uncle Tom boy doing his daddy’s good work…… You know it would do you some good to talk to a mason.. Maybe he could enlighten you about the sword or S Word which is secret word… But then again mayb you alread know. I wouldn’t doubt if you are a punk who hides behind this forum just to judge and insult people… Do you have your sheets on tonight… Because you sure sound like a demonic biggit trying to get people angry. God said though shall not judge, but that seems to be the only reason you come to this site.. Get a life or become a priest…. ooops maybe your already one….
What are you talking about Not A patriot? I think in there, there is some reference to Uncle Tom’s Cabin - you should read that book again. You’ll be surprised at what a fine man Tom is, and an example to all. I don’t understand all that stuff about sheets… could you explain? Of course I’m not a priest. I have nothing to do with the whore of Rome. I’m a Christian.
Oh, I really had my liberal Democrat tail spun around when I first read your posts on xxx3church, Sammy, but now I see that this wacko conservative Republican Christian is a comedian!! Oh the joy of it all!
Hi everyone from the forums!! Z, now I really think we should keep him. I’ve always wanted a wacko conservative Republican Christian who throws around fire and brimstone feces everywhere. They’re really fuzzy. The WCRC, not the feces.
http://www.xxxchurch.com is to help people who are addicted to pornography, not to help them get pornography. There’s nothing visually explicit on that site. I don’t know where you got those pictures but maybe you need to visit xxxchurch? This page has more explicit things than you’ll ever find on xxxchurch.
Sammy boy denial is not good… You are not a stupid, you seem quite intelligent.. So i know you are aware of what i am talking about…. Stop playing dump. YOu can quote scripture back and forth but yet act like you don’t know what sheets i am referring to.. Please stop insulting people and playing dumb Mr. Johnston.
No
I was on the xxxchurch.com forums for two days before someone gave me a link to was referred to as a Japanese “scat” film. I guess in Japan “scat” doesn’t mean “run away” which is what you’d do if you saw this film. I was offered more of the same I assume, featuring innocent subjects like chili dogs and hot lunches, but I left that forum and never went back.
They are a clandestine front for hardcore pornography. Take Shelley’s advice and just say no.
[...] Because of this inspiration, rather than setting right the wrongs of great malefactors like xxxchurch.com, I would today like to point out some of the good ideas available to Americans and some of the positive, love-filled acts that are being performed by a great citizen of our great country. [...]
Thank you Richard 23 for doing such dangerous research for Jesus. Those Japanese people are disgusting aren’t they?
Not to mention the foulness of their language. And they worship some fat guy called Shinto. Hahaha. What a funny name! What’s not funny is they don’t worship Jesus.
Kids today are into “anime” (cartoons) and “manga” (comics) from Japan. All of it is Satanic with spirits, magic, sex, etc. Maybe you could write something about good Christian alternatives or at least how to burn the offending material.
Shelley, Sam, and Richard, you are missing the point.
1. Christians do not lie (see the 10 Commandments, presumably you know where to find them).
2. xxxchurch.com is an anti-porn site.
3. Saying xxxchurch.com is a porn site is a lie.
4. Therefore, you are not Christians.
You might dismiss my opinions outright- I am not only not american (from UK) but I also voted for our Liberal Democrat party in the last election. But what’s wrong with letting people get on with their lives, then at death, god or St Peter or whoever, if he exists, can judge us himself?? He’ll probably do a better job than Shelly, who appears to have the intellectual capacity of an oversized vegetable. She could take some pictures with it for xxxchurch.com….? ;-)
Dear James,
You’ve got one thing right: your opinions are hereby dismissed. Why do liberals write such hateful nonsense? I really don’t know what’s wrong with letting pornographers, pedophiles and murderers just get on with their lives. After all they do no damage to society after all, do they. (See! We Americans understand sarcasm too!)
By the way… Do you know what G.W.Bush calls his Dick?? …… Cheney
Sam and Richard, do you flick Shelley’s bean? i bet you do! strum alittle, fiddle in the lettuce leaves and poke sticks down rabbit holes. Bush must love it
I don’t know what you mean. Typical Liberal nonsense!
I strongly disagree with your statement about xxxchurch they are a great bunch of guys doin great things they are helping those who strgulle with matters such as masturbation and pornography and dealing with these matters in a Godly way and that is why it is crucial to adress these matters in church a place where we learn about ourselves through the Glory of God did you not learn to love God through talking to God? did you not learn what God wishes for you through being with God? so therefore someone who has turned to God for help with these matters must be helped as God has helped you and others like you and that is what xxxchurch is doing! it doesnt want to exploit God or pornography or those who suffer with porn addiction it is dealing with a very prevalent issue that affects billions of people and makes billions of dollars each year
God Bless xRx
XXX CHURCH IS SUPPORTED BY THE CHURCH OF MOZILLA!
xxx church is AGAINST pornography. they have a very good parental control system (which I use) and it keeps me out of trouble. and their number on target being teenagers means that theyre trying to keep teenagers out of dirty sites. (because everyone, yes even your precicious billy bob has a lust problem.)
I hope that this website is run by someone who is trying to make the church and Republicans look stupid because if any is as ignorant as “Shelley” then the church has truly earned all of the hatred that is flung at them by people who hate what the church has become. While much of what I read from both sides on this blog is rhetoric that amounts to nothing more than a simple spewing what has been spoon-fed to them all from whomever each of them deems to be an authority in this area.
The church is dead, yet the call of Christians is, “long live the church.” It is time for American Christians to realize what is truly important is the souls of the teenagers, 20 somethings, and 30 somethings that will never set foot inside of church because of what they perceive is the mindset of all Christians. The time has come to get of the old model of doing church and come up with something ne because soon our church will all be empty. Do not confuse what Christ called the Church from the Church building that you sit in on Sunday morning, for surely the latter must be allowed to die to itself to save the former.
Additionally, there are a couple of things that people need to realize about Craig, JR, and Mike (pastors of XXXchurch.com). They have devpted themselves to an issue that has plagued the church for years, they approach people from the same perspective that Christ would have if he were still walking the earth, they choose not to judge sinners (because it serves no purpose), and they have spent more time fasting and obey the word of God than most of those who judge them.
I have several facts to point out even though Sam Johnston will inevitably try to twist my words into seeming to be an opinion. xxxchurch.com is not a porn site. It never was. I have set up my own computers with their parental controls to keep me from straying from the path. In their parental controls you can set it up to send an email to any email account you choose. In doing that, whenever you go to a porn site, it will email the account you have chosen. This is to help keep teenagers from looking at it because they will get caught looking at porn and to help addicts own up to their addiction. Addiction is a disease and people need help to overcome that disease. xxxchurch.com is one way for people to start overcoming their addiction to porn by setting up controls so they are held accountable for what they have done. Being ignorant of the subject you are trying to argue makes you come off as lacking intelligence. You have basically said that liberals cannot love God. This site has said “Do you liberals have to twist everything to fit your insane agenda? And Christians don’t get addicted to porn anyway.” So in effect it is saying that Christians cannot be addicts. That Christians, according to this site, are perfect in every way. That is not true. Christians are not perfect otherwise had we been we would not have needed Jesus to save us from our sins. This site has lost credibility when they did not do their research upon the subject they are commenting and when they cannot use grammar and punctuation correctly loses every shred of the credibilty and intelligence they have left.
Like many previous comments, mine is to assert that xxxchurch.com is NOT a porn site. I was disgusted to see that people can get it so wrong. When the message that they preach is so clear, why are there people who can still twist things around like this.
xxxchurch.com has helped me tons. Not only does it speak truth to set me free, it encourages me by showing me people who are relevant: dealing with the issues which so many Christians struggle with. To say that there aren’t Christians addicted to porn is to ignore whats staring you in the face.
If you say Christians who still struggle with porn are not Christians, please be the one to throw the first stone; because you are clearly without sin.
Jesus wants to transform us and he’s using xxxchurch.com to bring the issue to light and remove the perversion that porn brings. It is sad to see your condemning attitude and I really hope that sometime you learn to see grace and love.
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the “way of the master” is against XXX church’s dragging the church down and making it look bad, there is a blog on the way of the master,, radio where they say XXX church is real wrong..they show a video of XXXchurch’s porn puppet and a porn producer Ron Jeremy telling children at a grocery store porn is not for children but is for adults,,, this is abomination check it out.. http://www.brightcove.tv/title.jsp?title=1389981839&channel=1185329932 michaelmarkley@yahoo.com
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XXX church you people are wicked and God will destroy you!
repent!
XXX church is evil…
also Pat Roberson and the wicked 700 club endorse this
http://www.alittleleaven.com/2008/01/wally-the-weine.html
Imagine showing up to church next sunday and finding a 30 foot high erect phallus on top of your church or in the church parking lot announcing a sermon series on Pornography. “Absurd and ridiculous”, you say. “No Christian Church or Ministry would ever resort to something as shameful as a giant phallus”, you say. Sadly, you’d be wrong. (Warning: Explicit Link)
According to Wally’s Website:
Mike and Craig of XXXchurch dreamed up the idea of Wally one afternoon in sunny southern California. XXXchurch exists to bring awareness, openness, accountability and recovery to the church, society and individuals in the issues of pornography and to begin to provide solutions through non-judgmental and creative means. XXXchurch is here to make you think, react and to decide where you stand on the issues of porn. We’re not here to sling mud, but to shove the envelope and try and do some good.
Call us old fashioned but the church doesn’t need marketing gimmicks in the form of a giant inflatable phallus to fight porn. The church needs to get back to preaching God’s Word and the message of Christ Crucified for Sinners.
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Hey ,, a 30 ft wally the wiener is not Christian,,its sick
theses people are sick! ;;;; peter the porn puppet with Ron Jeremy telling children at a grocery porn is for adults is Sick..
I really think Ron Jeremy is behind XXX church it is a stunt by Him like the tobacco companies anti smoking campains…
I would not be surprised if Ron Jeremy started and Financed XXX Church.com…………………
You stupid F**KERS, and i think that republicans are a bunch of homosexual a$$ lickers.
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ON THE DAY OF JUDGEMENT, EVERYONE, and I mean, EVERYONE (including all those who are supporting this ABOMINATION)SHALL GIVE ACCOUNT OF WHAT HE DID WITH HIS LIFE. That’s for sure!!!!!!!!!
To XXXchurch
you people cannot stop Jesus.. its His truth,, no matter how much Hate you manifest…………
the HATE it takes to come up with dirty and perverse advertisements………
when many People tell you its abase and wrong the reaction is on your part pure Hate!
It’s the people like you who nailed Jesus on the cross and laughed
You laugh at Jesus driving around in you Christian Porn mobile,,
with XXXchurch painted on it.. You Laugh at the Blood of Jesus that was spilled
and His horrible death,,, its your pleasure to drag Jesus into the sewer and
make His church appear unholy,,with your sick inflatable male sex organ you cliam is christian, you have a legion of devils at your bidding
and hoards of blind followers who take great pleasure in shocking the real Christians
when you make statements of great swelling pride of you sinning lifestyles’
your a stench in the nostrils of God,,
“As the days are and over time this is more than your fate,, damnation waits”
I am resisting your sin!
Hebrews 12:4 (KJV)
Ye have not yet resisted unto blood, striving against sin.
michael
Once again, the stumblings of this blog have been shown. Michael, if i may, you didn’t do your homework. Down in credibility already. However i am not here to criticize people anymore. I’m not here to blame. I’m not even here to try and tell you people how wrong you are because, unfortunately, for once Michael, this site is right. Wally, who many people know from xxxchurch.com, is not something we need to be doing to help fight pornography. One because kids don’t need to be exposed to that and two because you should not do it because common decency and common sense should tell you its not publicly right to do it. Ron Jeremy also telling little kids porn is for adults only does not help. However. That being said i am still at odds with this blog because of the simple fact that while they claim to be christians all you can do is seem to slander other people. Yes their approach may be different than yours but it takes all kinds of people to reach everyone nowadays, doesn’t it? I have not stepped foot into a physical church in years because of the fact that no matter what church i go to their way is the only “right” way and everyone else is wrong. The only RIGHT way is the bible. I am sick of this blood fued that is going on between christians. WHY DOES THIS HAPPEN? Why can’t we just agree to disagree and be nice to each other. Jesus showed us the path, why can’t we walk it or at least make our best attempt to?
Eric????
have seen pornmobile video? I stood up against these XXXchurch people just as you have here in your letter..
and I wrote all over the website they made with the video
“how wrong they are”,, for the exact same reasons you state here…. not only did I do my home work on wally also the interview with ron Jeremy/porn puppet,, I also linked many of the interviews with mega ministries like TBN ,700 club,, God tube,, christianity today mag,,,
you are right about being sick of Christians fighting..
You wait its becoming a hate crime in many places to speak out and say sodomy ( gays ) are wrong…you watch so-called professing christian will side with them and attack real Christians who say you must repent ( stop ) sinning to enter Gods kingdom…
michael
Jesus said repent or you all will perish!
Jesus is Lord
i’ll parish before i repent to a hateful god so fuck you.
Sara
Do you believe criminals should be taken out of society?
What about a car thief? if he was allowed to keep stealing
cars yours could be next so in the world there are laws for the good of everyone..When a person dies they either enter Gods kingdom or not,Jesus is the King of His Kingdom because Jesus loves His people He cannot let sinners into His Kingdom like “car thieves”,liars,rapists, they are shut out and are sent into outer darkness or the lake of fire.God is not sadistic or vindictive He has rules that are good for the many…people who rebel and choose by their free will to do evil cannot enter in even if they call themselves christian.What about a priest that is molesting children? would God let him in a righteous holy kingdom? God is not willing any should perish but that “all” come to repentance this is our choice its by our freewill..
Repent
Michael
When in the world has Sara or anyone else said they want murderers or pedophiles or any other criminal to go free? Oh and michael, i didn’t stand up to them. All i said was Wally the Wiener sends the wrong kind of messages. IF i was standing up to them i wouldn’t be here talking and wasting my time with this site and arguing. HOWEVER i have no life so here i am. All i said was i’m sick of arguing with other christians about whose sect in our religion is right. I hope you can stop judging people and live your life. Try to walk the path. Only God can judge people. Why do you think i am all of a sudden on your side because i disagree with Wally the Wiener? I think what xxxchurch is trying to do is a great thing. Read my first post on the topic. Why can’t people get things right?
@michaelmarkley i do not condone any criminal activity what so ever i believe in the justice system and therefore do believe when people commit crime should be punished.
and to your comment to repent i absolutely will not repent.
,Sara ,Eric
you think the sex inflatable is sending the wrong message and XXXchurch is doing a good thing,,,”its diametric”
I honestly think you don’t know right from wrong,,
when you see BAD fruit there is a wolf in sheep’s Clothing,, Wally is real sick and bad fruit..
Its pure wickedness…plain and simple…
Also Eric you should read the bible and stop miss quoting it..
Qoute; I hope you can stop judging people and live your life. Try to walk the path. Only God can judge people.
End quote
You don’t judge right from wrong because you believe a doctrine that accepts sinning.
“”OSAS is a dangerous devilish doctrine”"..
why don’t you repent and let the holy spirit teach you truth..
You say stop judging only God judges,,
“so do I believe your doctrine or Jesus?”
John 7:24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.
You say stop judging only God judges,,
“so do I believe your doctrine or Paul?”
1 Cor. 5:3 (KJV)
For I verily, as absent in body, but present in spirit, have judged already, as though I were present, concerning him that hath so done this deed,
1 Cor. 5:12-13 (KJV)
For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? [13] But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.
1 Cor. 6:2-5 (KJV)
Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters? [3] Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life? [4] If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church. [5] I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren?
1 Cor. 10:15 (KJV)
I speak as to wise men; judge ye what I say.
Eric and Sara , you need to repent! No one can enter Gods Kingdom sinning…
Not XXXchurch or anyone else!
michael
Michael
Wow. Thank you once again michael for proving AGAIN that ignorance is this sites main problem. Let us see what i mean.
QUOTE
1 Cor. 5:12-13 (KJV)
For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? [13] But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.
END QUOTE
What does it say….OH YEAH that people WITHOUT God judge and that we should distance ourselves from that person or those people. Now then what did you say to me? I believe it was: QUOTE
“Also Eric you should read the bible and stop miss quoting it..”
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Don’t be a hypocrite. You miss quoted the Bible. You tried to tell me to read it, do you even read it? Also what is with the 1 to 4 verse long quotes? Whats the whole chapter or story from the Bible say with those that you don’t want us to see? I’ll put all of 1 Cor. 5 here its going to be KJV.
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1It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles, that one should have his father’s wife.
2And ye are puffed up, and have not rather mourned, that he that hath done this deed might be taken away from among you.
3For I verily, as absent in body, but present in spirit, have judged already, as though I were present, concerning him that hath so done this deed,
4In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when ye are gathered together, and my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ,
5To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.
6Your glorying is not good. Know ye not that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump?
7Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us:
8Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.
9I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators:
10Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world.
11But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolator, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.
12For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?
13But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.
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So hmmm…..you are taking verses out of context. Please don’t search the bible for verses that support your own delusions. Take it in context. I spent 10 years of my life in bible study, sunday school, confirmation. Do not assume that i don’t know what i am talking about. Shall i check on 1 Cor. chapter 6 and 10 or do i leave your humilation where its at? I know right from wrong, very much so. You know that little voice inside your head that makes you feel guilty? Thats called a conscience, something you seem to lack. Here’s a thought to ponder:
Proverbs 11:23 The desire of the righteous ends only in good, but the hope of the wicked only in wrath. (NIV)
the person is a church member who was put out,, he was without God… he had God but transgressed
2 John 1:9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.
by the way Eric,
you and your wicked porn church had better Repent!
I don’t need the stress that the constant arguing this website causes. I don’t need you michael to tell me that i am evil because i support the overall goal or a program or website, just not the means it is achieved. I definitely do not need some pompous, egotistical street preacher to try and tell me of all my sins when he has never met me, nor does he even care to stop outside of his own little bigoted and biased world to understand other people’s perspective. This will be my last post. I have more important things to do and definitely less stressful.
XXXchurch has advertisements around their socalled ministry
that is promoting pornography these advertisements may or may not
be produced by xxxchurch but the point is they are porn.
I also was told the xxx porn church’s position on salvation
is that if a porn star is saved and still remains in his occupation
he is secure in salvation as long as he is Christian.
Why is it you believe everything you are told by humans michael? Isn’t it possible they are doing the devil’s work? It is. If you don’t bother to go do your own research, to learn about it yourself, you look like an idiot who is only gossiping about a topic they are completely ignorant of. Like the blackhole button on the Halidon collider. Now I may not know exactly what it is, or what it does however i do know that the scientists who use it and work with it do and they KNOW the button doesn’t do diddly squat yet all these ignorant people were afraid a black hole was going to be made. Guess what, it was tested and we’re all still here. So maybe instead of believing what you are told you should do your own research. There are no advertisements for porn on XXXCHURCH.COM. I don’t know their views on redemption, neither do you. DO YOUR RESEARCH!
eric
I spoke with these XXX porn church members face to face,,
I know they believe a current porn star who asks to be saved can stay active in the porn buisness and it does not affect his salvation..
come and see the video talking with them at
openairpreacher at utube
http://www.youtube.com/user/openairpreacher