Culture Wars: The Goths
Friends,
We conservatives are a tolerant bunch; sometimes too tolerant. Is it really right to ignore evil lifestyles? There are some Americans whose motto is “Live and Let Live”, that is to turn a blind eye to the bad things they see around them.
Shelley, myself and our fellow writers do not feel that way. We believe that God commands us, through the Holy Bible to stand up for what is good and when we see the signs of corruption in our communities and country we feel obliged to call them out that after all is exactly what Jesus Christ would do. It’s because of Christ’s example that we feel compelled to write this blog.
And thats why I would like to talk to you about the latest way liberals are re-packaging the creed of satanism. I’m talking about “goths”:
At this point, I know some of my readers will be confused. I’m not talking about the ancient race of pagan people who were known as the Goths, nor am I talking about the medieval style of church-building which is also known as the ‘Gothic’ style. I’m referring to a modern American sub-culture whose goal is to turn our American teens into black-clad zombies! Unlike the ancient pagans and the medieval Churches, the Goths are amongst us and intent on challenging American values now.
We all know that kids are not born “Gothic”; Just like homosexuality, Gothic behavior must be acquired, or more specifically taught . Many kids become gothic because of the influence of older goths, however an entire genre of movies, music and television exist to make children Gothic:
Can you believe that a kid’s film has a satanic character as it’s hero? This movie is goth-training. It has been designed to corrupt children and turn them gothic.
For example, many Goths credit their “turning” to the movie “The Nightmare before Christmas”, by the famous nihilist director Tim Burton. In this movie the devil (who resembles an animated skeleton) creates a distorted, evil version of Christmas in which his satanic cohorts make a mockery of God’s day. The popularity of this film proves the liberal’s agenda in thw war against Christmas.
As you would expect, it’s the bad-guys who get all the best lines, and the overwhelming message of the film is that it’s good to disrespect our Christian traditions. This film creates a bad example that small children wish to imitate.
This Christian child might end up gothic if she is allowed access to dangerous material such as “The Nightmare before Xmas”.
For the teenage Goth, life can be confusing. Lacking God’s guidance most teenage Goths belive themselves to be vampires or “Vampyres”, as they commonly mis-spell. Once again, propelled by a liberal movie industry that promotes satanic films like “Interview with a Vampire”, many young Americans are propelled into disgusting blood-drinking habits.
Teenage goths: At least one of these kids has already turned to vampirism. These kids face a bleak future unles they repent and turn back to Christ.
can’t get blood, you say?
can’t take the pain, you say?
completely f*ucked and out of options, you say?well friend, you’v come to the right place. allow me to introduce myself, i’m vicious, the high king of last ditch efforts. if your desperate for a quick, easy, and relatively in-expensive fix, have a seat and listen up. Instructions to help teen-goths make “bloodwine” on an illegal gothic BBS.
Finally, as an adult Goth one’s mission is to spread corruption as far as possible. The adult goth retains the juvenile’s morbid obsessions but freed from any form of parental guidance (or what passes for guidance in liberal households) they are free to adopt ever more outlandish forms of dress and deportment.
For the adult Goth, life is unpleasant. The goth is forever an outcast he can no more fit in with a modern business environment than he can in polite society. Would you like a Goth living next door to you?
Wherever he goes, he attracts stares and scorn, so he is forced to abandon the normal world, and devote his drug-addled attention to the sleazy side of life. Many Goths become nocturnal, and as a result, most Goths work in comic-book stores, and peripheral aspects of the sex-trade.
Adult goths: They seek to corrupt a new generation of Americans to their satanic way.
It is at this point that the adult Goth seeks to acquire a younger generation of proto-goths to pass on their ‘virus’. Lacking in friends and shunned by society, this is the only form of friendship that most Goths achieve.
But all is not bleak. Christ’s love can turn these living zombies. Shelley and I have seen this with our own eyes, as by bearing witness to Christ’s message the goth learns that his master (Satan) is a defeated enemy, and in doing so casts off his chains (both literal and figurative).
As of today, the STR.com Internet ministry will be seeking out the Internet’s most outlandish Goths and will make them an offer they cannot refuse: Eternal life with Jesus Christ. If you know of a goth or live near a gothic community please take a few hours to proclaim Christ’s love to them. They may be unready for a confrontation, and this would be a perfect opportunity to change their lives.
This Finnish band called “In Flames” is guilty of spreading the gothic message to impressionable teens. Concerned parents should prevent kids from listening to goth music, also known as “Black Metal”. The most popular black metal bands include: Slipknot, Marralyn Manson, U2, Kiss, The Darkness, Bauhaus, The Sisters of Mercy, Meatloaf and Negativland. If you know of other goth bands, please let me know so I can add them to this list.
Yours With God,
Tristan J. Shuddery
(STR.com Culture Correspondent)
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This is a truly hateful sight Mr “The Spur”. I only left your post up as an example of just how hateful and mis-informed liberals can be.
I’ve heard this sick disease has even been spread as far as Britian, England. They can’t even come up with their own perversions. I guess it’s understandable when American society is obviously superior to any other in the world. But they should be emulating our Christianity, not the liberal’s degeneracy.
I will pray for the little girl on the trike. How did they get that picture of her as a Goth? Is that computer generated? It’s scary whatever it is.
God save us all from the Goth menace!
CAUTION: The Spur has embedded subliminal Satanic phrases and pornography into his web page. It is not visible to the naked eye but it will gradually damage your soul. The website will also make an attempt at identity theft.
I looked away just in time. Tristan, you should reconsider being so tolerant if peddlers of dangerous liberal propaganda.
I am not hateful, I tell the truth and uses the freedom of speech as everyone else. You are the missinformed man, and I guess you never will change.
I will pray for the little girl on the trike. How did they get that picture of her as a Goth? Is that computer generated? It?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥s scary whatever it is.
It is indeed - that is exactly what awaits children who spurn Christ’s love.
The only thing I’m going to point out with this one is that there is no such thing as an illegal BBS. Illegal things can be posted, but just about the only things that are ever prosecuted over the ‘net are fraud and child pornography.
Other than that…scrape off some of the extremism, and I agree with this…
My daughter watched Finding Nemo and turned into a fish. If I hadn’t heard her flapping she’d have suffocated. I think it’s the liberal paedophiles at Pixar and Walt Disney who are responsible for this. I on the other hand watched Rio Lobo the other day, and when I woke up the next morning I’d turned into John Wayne, a true American Hero. Unfortunately I also have lung cancer now.
Well if a BBS detailing how to make “bloody wine” is not illegal, it soon will be with the help of President George W Bush and the Supreme Court. Sadly there’s still some liberal activists on the Court though.
One or two more Justices appointed by President Bush will set America on the right course for decades to come.
Let’s all pray for SCOTUS retirements.
And more BBS bannings. Maybe black clothing and white makeup could be restricted to adults only, 18+ or 21+.
Richard 23, thanks for your excellent suggestions and comments. I find the practices of these “Vampyres” nausiating - what they do is a health risk, and blood if abused can be a WMD. Why should we allow these abhorent practices to continue?
R23 (The Bullshit ‘Bot!): This has hit many shorelines…though I pray the disease didn’t start here; that would be an embarrassment to America. Also, I highly doubt that girl on the trike is that Goth in the corner…though the very possibility is horrendous. Next, subliminal messages require some sort of sound. Images aren’t enough. Not to mention a look at the basic HTML coding of the site is enough to disprove your spurious claims. Finally, note they don’t talk about killing people to get blood. So, they aren’t plotting murder, so they aren’t commiting a crime. That being said, such actions will never be a crime, given they don’t infringe upon the personal liberties of anyone else. Also, the ‘net is almost impossible to regulate. Even China has failed to do so.
RF: Pike off.
Tristan: I would like to see you explain exactly how blood can be a WMD. Yes, it’s a health risk, but they’re risking their own hides, not mine. The only reason they are allowed to continue, as is, is that they are not guilty of crimes just by putting on some really ugly clothing and make-up. Until they individually kill someone, or rob a butcher shop, nothing can be done about them.
You know, I usually can tell just by reading the first paragraph whether to read on (be it a newspaper article, magazine, anything). I applied that method here. Except all I needed to read was the first sentence: “We conservatives are a tolerant bunch,” and proceeded to laugh my ass off.
wow… this lates post just blows my mind… you people truly are biggits. Biggits attack anyone including their own kind if they do not agree with them. The nightmare before christmas is a holloween movie….. It came quite a few years ago… I own a copy of hte movie and has watched it serveral time with my kids… If you watch the movie tristan you will see it is not demonic of any kind… To day this movie is demonic and promotes Goths is rediculous… Tristan once again you have proven just how stupid you can be….. Wow i this is unbelievable…… Richard 23…. slandering is illegal…. why are you going to such great legnths to keep people from simply visiting someone’s website.. You people must be descendants of Chistopher Columbus… because you actually belive the doctrine he broght here is the only way…. Idoits…
Goth is not “a modern American sub-culture” but is an architect way to realize buildings, church… It is dating from end of middle age/beginning of light age and brought us the most beautiful religious building in the world. What is more i’m surprized you didn’t talk about the movie “the crow” with Brandon Lee & Vincent Perez…
As usual you’re to bad informed. Only christian integrist and brainless people can trust your writes. You should’nt interfer in other people life. Homosexuality as well as gothism are NOT SICKNESS.
How would the christian emerge if all roman were thinking like you in year 200 ?
nap: Slandering is also next to impossible to prove…you have to be able to prove that he knew it was false before he said it. And, since our nation works under the principle of innocent until proven guilty, good luck doing so. And what the Hell does old Columbus have to do with anything? He came around over five centuries ago, and has been dead almost as long. Unlike the Son of God’s teachings, whatever philosophies Columbus brought with him are long dead.
Ha … ha … hahaha … hahahaha …
There we go again, blood is a WMD, liberals are goths … And black clothing should be restricted to adults …
Why can’t you people just get a life and stop attacking whoever (about 2 thirds of the world) disagrees with your twisted views. Go home.
Try about 98% of the world disagrees. And that’s being nice.
About the Spur’s site: of course you can’t see anything in the code. Can you see demons? Can you see souls? Duh! Satan’s minions are a tricky bunch. Avert your eyes from evil or you might die.
And Max I am home. And good Christian Republican Americans make the rules about what can be done in our house (USA).
It’s wrong for you to tell me what I can do in my own house (USA), right? So we won’t tell you what to do in your socialist Eurotrash country, yet.
You have a very ignorant understanding of goth. Not all goths - or even most goths - are satanists or into vampirism. For most goths it is about music and fashion.
The Christian Research Journal had a great article on Goth last month.
http://www.equip.org/journal/index.asp?Volume=147&pass=
There is also the http://www.gothicchristianity.com/ an organization of goth Christians.
“He that would make his own liberty secure must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself.” - Thomas Paine
What ??? “the principle of innocent until proven guilty” … That’s not a US way to do. May i have to remind you the famous “Abeas Corpus” which means you HAVE TO proove you’re innocent whereas other democraty have choosen that they have to proove you’re guilty.
Sorry, but even US justice doesn’t belong its name. This country is absolutely not ready for 21th century! It has technologies but education, health care, military and justice systems are too much deprecated. Remember that AngloSaxons were the most terrible conqueror of the world, far from portugal,espa??Ǭ±a, france or netherland.
Christopher Columbus didn’t discovered America. It was already discovered by sweedishs’ vikings far before year 1492 (round 800 AC).
Columbus brought only illness (like redplague and christianism) on those lands…
Sorry but you lads seems to suffer from a lack of culture.
Umm… the second picture is actually juggalos, insane clown posse fans. Also, KISS was glam rock, not goth. Gene Simmons was a bible scholar
I’m glad for you to posting this article that i’ve requested.
Thanks to you
Ahh. I laughed my ass off after just reading the first line. ;] Pure hilarity.
Congratulations, Tristan.
“We all know that kids are not born ?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ?Gothic?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ?; Just like homosexuality, Gothic behavior must be acquired, or more specifically taught.”
is my new quote of the week *smiles*
I am goth myself…and proud of it.
This is so good humor! I bet you judge all people by their looks. I’m a christian and here’s my picture:
http://tinyurl.com/owufk
“Ghalaad wrote:
What ??? ?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ?the principle of innocent until proven guilty?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ? ?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?Ǭ? That?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥s not a US way to do.”
Read our Constitution, and take a look at such things as murder cases. Say I was charged with murder. First, the prosecutor would have to take the evidence in front of a 24-person grand jury, who have to, as a majority (13 or more) decide that there is enough evidence to prosecute me. Then, they have to take it in front of a 12-person trial jury, who has to UNANIMOUSLY (that’s all twelve of them) believe that I commited the crime before I can actually be punished for it. Note that if even ONE person disagrees, I would go free. That sure does seem innocent until proven guilty to me.
“May i have to remind you the famous ?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ?Abeas Corpus?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ? which means you HAVE TO proove you?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥re innocent whereas other democraty have choosen that they have to proove you?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥re guilty.”
First off, it’s “habeus corpus”. And you have the purpose completely wrong…it allows a person charged and held for a crime to contest the legality of their being held. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Habeas_corpus for an excellent article concerning this right, which has its roots in England in the 13th century.
“Sorry, but even US justice doesn?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥t belong its name.”
Yep, we prefer the rights of the defendant over the rights of the victim…to the point of throwing out an entire case, no matter how solid, if the officers screw up in any way, even down to not reading the person their rights when they’re arrested (See Miranda v. Arizona).
“This country is absolutely not ready for 21th century! It has technologies but education, health care, military and justice systems are too much deprecated. Remember that AngloSaxons were the most terrible conqueror of the world, far from portugal,espa??Ǭ±a, france or netherland.”
And those technologies are developed by people who graduate from our colleges, by and large. As for health care, where are most of the truly major pharmaceutical companies? Right here in the US of A, where we finance the development of the new drugs and procedures that save millions of lives each year. And as for the Anglo-Saxons being terrible conquerers, you seems to forget the Mongols, the Huns, the Romans, the Spanish conquistadors, etc. The Vikings, too, with their brutal raids of monastaries and other settlements were pretty terrible. You can’t make such a claim and have any sort of credibility.
“Christopher Columbus didn?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥t discovered America. It was already discovered by sweedishs?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥ vikings far before year 1492 (round 800 AC).”
No shit, really? That’s sarcasm, by the way. And the Norse came here around 1200 AD (not AC…it’s Anno Domini, “In the Year of Our Lord”)…there are several settlements they think are from a prior Norse expedition in the 800’s, but they aren’t entirely certain yet.
“Columbus brought only illness (like redplague and christianism) on those lands?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?Ǭ?
Sorry but you lads seems to suffer from a lack of culture. ”
You seem to suffer from a lack of comprehension of the English language. I said, “He came around over five centuries ago…” not that he discovered the Americas. You’re also ignoring the benefits he brough, such as horses. Finally, there is no “redplague”…the closest I can think of is the “Black Death”, the bubonic plague that struck Europe several time in the medieval ages. Though, since I actually know my history, you’re probably speaking of smallpox, which, over a century later, was used as an early biological weapon by the British. You also don’t seem to realize that Columbus was financed by Spain, not by the British.
U2 as black metal band. Right.
I just wonder how author forgot to mention Elvis Presley, most famous goth singer in history.
Love this article! (haha)
One thing though, In flames are not finnish, but swedish! ;)
just to point out: AC can stand for after christ as well ;)
hyperspeed: That being said, the transition from BC to AD occurs at Christ’s birth, not at His death. After Christ would imply that it began at His death, and would also deny His Resurection. Anno Domini, In the Year of Our Lord, gives its own small testament to His eternal hand.
Ok I\’m not really good in english so i would like to express myself in french : < French text deleted by editor, sorry we only allow American on this site - Tristan>
Umh…don’t You think that comment censoring like this a little bit…nazi-like, Tristan?
You needn’t learn a foreign language, but should accept it. I also don’t delete english comments in my blog.
Negativland! I’m glad you bring them up. Did you know their evil song “Christianity Is Stupid” caused David Brom to kill his parents, brother and sister with an axe when he was sixteen?
This is truly the face and danger of the “Goth” cult.
Ron (fixed): For most goths it is about music and fashion [and slaughtering goats to Beelzebub].
And don’t forget about Bauhaus (”Bela Lugosi’s Bed”). Pure evil.
Thank you Tristan, I’m glad I didn’t have to read that French!
It occured to me that you might want to include Meatloaf on your list of satanic-goth-black-metal-evil-doers. This fat man is so disgusting he proclaims that he would like to be a bat in hell. Where do they get these sick ideas? (By the way, that’s a rhetorical question. I know that the answer is Satan.)
Here is something you could do an short article on, the growing support of the Christian “Left”.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/07/09/eveningnews/main1786860.shtml
“We are furious that the religious right has made Jesus into a Republican. That’s idolatry,” Campolo said. “To recreate Jesus in your own image rather than allowing yourself to be created in Jesus’ image is what’s wrong with politics.”
Isn’t Meatloaf Michael Moore? I mean look at him. He’s so fat!
I’ve never seen them in the same room.
And what about Ozzy Ozbourne? Doesn’t he eat bats for breakfast? It’s almost as if Goths think “Every Day Is Hell-o-ween.”
Christian left? Unitarians and Episcopalians are not Christians any more than Catholics are. At least Catholics recognize the sanctity of life and the depravity of homosexuality. That doesn’t mean they won’t burn in hell if they don’t repent.
This is just incredible ! You just pretending to be soooooo tolerant, but first I really don’t think you are, you’re spreading clih??Ǭ©, awful clich??Ǭ© that the goths themselves are making fun of, and then you really should learn about the whole rock’n ‘roll history and after you’ll see that is just a normal part of the rock ‘n roll circus.
Ho and Richard, you are maybe worse than the poor shelley, just put your nose out of the bible and all those christians things, the real world is not christianity and USA, just take your backpack, forget your bible and go around the world to see that your representation of it is not only wrong but perverted by your whole conservative and blind education. Ho and by the way you should read some philosopher to open your mind.
“the real world is not christianity and USA”
It was the last time I looked.
Black metal is certainly not the same as goth music. If you want to listen to som good black metal, I suggest Satyicon, Enslaved, Mayhem and Khold. Now this is music that you, Shelley, can rant about for a very long time.
All goths are paedophiles. Just like republicans. Republicans are against goths because they don’t like the competition. And goths eat children after they’ve raped them.
you all crack me up. Thanks for the funny psychotic religous posts.I really think its funny how everyone is going to hell, well according to a select “few”. :)
“Nimh wrote:
This is just incredible ! You just pretending to be soooooo tolerant, but first I really don?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥t think you are, you?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥re spreading clih??Ǭ©, awful clich??Ǭ© that the goths themselves are making fun of, and then you really should learn about the whole rock?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥n ?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ?roll history and after you?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥ll see that is just a normal part of the rock ?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ?n roll circus.”
From what I understand of the origins of Goth, for once, Tristan isn’t far off. And if the core’s rotten, you throw the whole bad apple away. As for the “circus”, I don’t recall seeing a whole lot of badly dressed freaks at Beetles and Rolling Stones concerts they have videos of from way back when.
“Ho and Richard, you are maybe worse than the poor shelley, just put your nose out of the bible and all those christians things,”
Read the Bible. He’s some little kid looking for attention, with no understanding of what’s written in God’s Word.
“the real world is not christianity and USA,”
A very significant part of it is Christian, and the USA…and most of the real military force in the world is American.
“just take your backpack, forget your bible and go around the world to see that your representation of it is not only wrong but perverted by your whole conservative and blind education.”
That’s not a conservative education he’s received. That’s called a fascist education. I also highly doubt he’s received anything past elementary school.
“Ho and by the way you should read some philosopher to open your mind.”
Some philosophy broadens your perspectives, while much of it makes you wish the philosopher were alive again, just so you could personally put their whiny ass back in the grave.
Richard 23 wrote:
It?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥s wrong for you to tell me what I can do in my own house (USA), right? So we won?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥t tell you what to do in your socialist Eurotrash country, yet.
So its OK for you to tell us what we can or cant do in our own country(usa) who made you so high and mighty? surely not god(if he exists) you’ve no right to criticise other peoples rights.
About your words on Spur?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥s site, Did your mom drop you on your head when you where a baby?!
This whole site must be a joke because the “information” you guys pedal is worse than any drug that could be produced.
Are you all twelve or what? Not one of you can spell. This article is a load of bullshit that perpetuates paranoia and close-mindedness. You’re all insane.
U2 is a black metal band!?
Well, you learn something new every day.
Cool! Finland was mentioned in STR!
Michael Clark* said: “So its OK for you to tell us what we can or cant do in our own country(usa).”
Thank you very much. I thought I did.
Blasphemer! You must be blind from too much masturbation and viewing online pr0n.
You would know, you hippie potsmoking moonbat! Put down the crack pipe and raise your arms to Christ.
#48 was me. The Spur in league with Satan blotted out my name. Fortunately the power of Windows XP broke the spell.
This could not be done with Linux, because Linux is the work of the devil.
* Clark is the correct spelling. Sad that Michael Clark can’t even spel his own name!
When i was talking about “red plague” it is something we call “rougeole”. This illness killed millions of natives just after colombus arrived.
Anyway, why, in USA, you don’t have to find the body to talk about murder ? Why are so many people pleading guilty when they see they don’t have enough money to be normally defended ?
About pharma science it is exactly what i was talking about: money and no heart.
I’ll compare with my native country : france.
There when you’re arrested there is only a 24 hours keepin’. If there is a beam of proof a judge can decide to keep you more… This judge is called “instruction judge”. This guy is paid to discover the truth, helped by police or gendarmerie. Police chief are not elected but nominated by justice minister: this is a lot less political than your system. You can’t be convinced of murder if a body has not been discovered. You can’t be killed by justice because redemption is almost always possible.
About health care system, you have to pay for interventions but you’re fully refunded by the “Social Security”: that means even poor can be healed. This system is working for more than 40 years… We’re paying a lot of charges but we’re garanteed to have our chance to live: what is money compared to health ???? nothing… Anyone who’s thinking something else is heartless! Life primes.
I regred about my Histories lacks, that was almot all false, you’re right ;)
I’ve a list of gothic and black metal bands:
Red Hot Chili Peppers
Korn
Limp Bizkit
Blink 182
Onirika
Good Charlotte
Queens Of The Stone Age
Metallica
Guns n’ Roses
Queen
System Of A Down (extrememly anti-Americans)
Mr Shuddery, do Christian Goths go to hell too? If I wear clown makeup, is it an affront to God?
My friends say it’s cool to drink goats blood and are teasing me because I don’t paint my face. I want to fit in.
What should I do?
you are to fucking crazy i think you come before that terrorizing shit. In god we trust its a stuborn idea i really think is you the disease of this planet to blind minded. You act like vampire yourself here to wacth and catch the first pray you see … come here enter the JESUS sect you fool
Aurain wrote:
“From what I understand of the origins of Goth, for once, Tristan isn?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥t far off.”
Obviously you also don’t know the history of the goth subculture, and what Tristan says is way far from the truth. check your sources.
“As for the ?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ?circus?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ?, I don?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥t recall seeing a whole lot of badly dressed freaks at Beetles and Rolling Stones concerts they have videos of from way back when.”
not only your knwoledge about the history pointless but your knowledge about rock’n roll too. Rock ‘n roll can not be reduced to The Beatles and The rolling stones (who were not considered as angels, do i have to remeber you this song Sympathy for the devil). If you open a book about rock history you’ll see that Jimi Hendrix or Joan Baez, or Kiss were considered as trouble makers and unpure people whose role was to lead the youngs to an evil path. Sex drugs and rock’n roll that was the motto of those bands including the rolling stones, and the way they were dressed was not accepted becasue it waas the expression of a subversive way of thinking which was a threaten for society.
“Read the Bible. He?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥s some little kid looking for attention, with no understanding of what?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥s written in God?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥s Word.”
The bible is an allegory, as all the mythologies, it can be interpreted in anyway, more especially as it was traduced again and again from many languages and subjected to the thoughts of the traductors. The understandind of the bible is subjective, it just can be a tool to think the life, and not a moral guide or anything else.
“A very significant part of it is Christian, and the USA?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?Ǭ?and most of the real military force in the world is American”
Do I have to give you statistics? and btw if you consider Str definition of what is a good chistian only WASP are good christian, and they are nowadays a minority (powerful indeed) even in the us.
I wonder how you can considered that a military force represant the whole world? And i don’t want to be rude but when you see all the exactions of the us army in Iraki you better be shameful, and maybe is the more numerous official army in the wrold but it was completely inefficient for finding bin laden who has an unofficial army which is way more dangerous and threatening than american army.
And finally the world cannot be summarize to religion and military force.
“That?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥s not a conservative education he?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥s received. That?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥s called a fascist education. I also highly doubt he?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥s received anything past elementary school.”
That’s amazing i do agree with you.
Since I dont have the time to take a shot at every one of your flawed remarks….I’ll point out only one right now:
You mention U2 as a black metal band…and gothic.
U2??
Perhaps you’d want to listen to the message they’re spreading which includes respecting and showing love for your fellow human instead of hatred like your site.
Maybe you’d wanna take a look at all the good work its frontman Bono has done in many good charity-works.