Hitler the Atheist
Friends,
Take a look around you, it’s your last chance to see an endangered species: The Atheist. In a few short years they will all be gone. Atheism will be as extinct as the dodo ? a lumbering flightless bird which failed to adapt to harsh post 9/11 realities.
In his table talk entry for 25/1/1942, Hitler says he favors theories that about 10,000 years ago a catastrophe happened between the Moon and the Earth, with floods and fires , causing a calamitous collapse of the golden civilisations which existed then, and leaving just a few people alive on the world, who were able to find higher ground. (Hitler also claims the Bible contains a garbled recollection of this event) — Stephen Carr. Is it just a co-incidence that this is exactly what atheists and neo-Darwinists believe?
The “golden days” of atheism were perhaps the days of Nazi Germany or the Soviet Union. That was a time when atheist thought was not only fashionable, it was compulsory. In Nazi Germany, anybody who failed to follow Hitler’s belief in Darwinian evolution could be sent to a concentration camp, which itself was the ultimate expression of atheist philosophy. Stalin sent Christ’s followers to the Gulags, a terrible network of hidden prisons.
Hitler stated: ‘The consequence of this racial purity, universally valid in Nature, is not only the sharp outward delimitation of the various races, but their uniform character in themselves. The fox is always a fox, the goose a goose, the tiger a tiger, etc., and the difference can lie at most in the varying measure of force, strength, intelligence, dexterity, endurance, etc., of the individual specimens. But you will never find a fox who in his inner attitude might, for example, show humanitarian tendencies toward geese, as similarly there is no cat with a friendly inclination toward mice.’
However the bible clearly states that:
“The wolf will live with the lamb, and the leopard will lie down with the young goat; The calf, the young lion, and the fattened calf together; and a little child will lead them.” (isaiah 11:6)
Hitler’s views were in clear opposition to the bible, and identical to those of modern-day “scientists”.
All atheists harbor exactly the same world-view as Josef Stalin and Adolph Hitler. We Christians have been charged by God to contain the threat that Atheism poses to the world’s liberty. I guess extinction isn’t always a bad thing!
Yours in Christ,
Tristan J. Shuddery
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Jeremiah 14:14 - “Then the LORD said unto me, The prophets prophesy lies in my name: I sent them not, neither have I commanded them, neither spake unto them: they prophesy unto you a false vision and divination, and a thing of nought, and the deceit of their heart.”
Jeremiah 23:25 - “I have heard what the prophets said, that prophesy lies in my name, saying, I have dreamed, I have dreamed.”
Matthew 7:22-23 - “Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’”
“All atheists harbour exactly the same world-view as Josef Stalin and Adolph Hitler. We Christians have been charged by God to contain the threat that Atheism poses to the world?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥s liberty. I guess extinction isn?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥t always a bad thing”
No, all atheists do not harbour exactly the same view as Josef Stalin and Adolf Hitler (and where did you possibly dream up the notion that those two individuals had “exactly the same world view”?).
Atheism is not an organised philosophy, but simply individual people going about their lives. Indeed, the only thing that atheists have in common, for the most part, is the fact that they do not believe in a “God”.
How are you planning on containing the “threat” that atheists pose to world liberty, exactly? I ask because I think that if your “God” actually existed then he, and Jesus Christ in particular, would be interested in the moral standings of someone who thought that “extinction isn?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥t always a bad thing!”.
You probably won’t post this on your site, and if you do I’d imagine you’ll edit it heavily before doing so. Still, hopefully it may have gone some tiny way toward triggering something in your mind that says you should stop and think before judging others, especially considering the religion that you hold.
Kindest regards
Gem
Nazism was first and foremost a religion and Hitler a deeply religious man. Not only that but he and Goebbels claimed christianity as a justificattion for many of their actions - and actually persecuted atheists. Ring any bells republicans?
If we allow the democ-rats to take Jesus out of our government we make a new nazi dictatorship more likely.
Only Christ can protect us from the evils of naziism.
Regards,
Shelley Goodman
Take a look around you, it?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥s your last chance to see an endangered species: The Atheist. In a few short years they will all be gone. Atheism will be as extinct as the dodo ?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¨ a lumbering flightless bird which failed to adapt to harsh post 9/11 realities.
The Dodo was extinct even before humanity existed…
Oh and atheists aren?Ǭ¨?Ǭ•t an endangered species (there humans after all). Right now, 18,5% of the german population are atheists.
Is it just a co-incidence that this is exactly what atheists and neo-Darwinists believe?
10.000 years? Wrong, it were some million years!
The ?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ?golden days?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ? of atheism were perhaps the days of Nazi Germany or the Soviet Union. That was a time when atheist thought was not only fashionable, it was compulsory. In Nazi Germany, anybody who failed to follow Hitler?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥s belief in Darwinian evolution could be sent to a concentration camp, which itself was the ultimate expression of atheist philosophy. Stalin sent Christ?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥s followers to the Gulags, a terrible network of hidden prisons.
Both countries didn?Ǭ¨?Ǭ•t exist by then. The 3rd Reich was founded in the twenties, the Soviet Union during WWI.
Oh, and Stalin and Hitler sent anyone they wanted into a Gulag/concentration camp. Christians were not part of of this group in the 3rd reich. (Not because of their religion. If they did something elso, however…) Oh, and atheism is live and let live. That and what Hitler ans Stalin did is totally different.
Hitler?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥s views were in clear opposition to the bible, and identical to those of modern-day ?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ?scientists?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ?.
Because what the bible is telling has never benn proven right. It has benn proven wrong a lot of times, though…
All atheists harbour exactly the same world-view as Josef Stalin and Adolph Hitler. We Christians have been charged by God to contain the threat that Atheism poses to the world?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥s liberty.
Well, I?Ǭ¨?Ǭ•m an aheist(better said an agnostic) and there?Ǭ¨?Ǭ•s nothing that disgusts me more than a national socialist/Stalinist regime. Again proven you wrong.
I guess extinction isn?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥t always a bad thing!
And that makes you as worse as the nazis and Stalin.
Only Christ can protect us from the evils of naziism.
The constitution Shelley, the constitution. And Jesus was never part of your government. (Secualr state, you know.)
PS: Hey, why isn?Ǭ¨?Ǭ•t Sam answering my questions about the Unit? Seems like those cowards are runing away!
The German Guy
Don?Ǭ¨?Ǭ•t let the USA become the 4th Reich!
IMPEACH BUSH!
And here I was remembering Hitler to be a Roman Catholic… xD
Hitler was a bad man, yes, but he doesn’t deserve being associated with those scumbags.
:(
Well, Well good old christians from Iowa are calling for extinction again. Doesn’t seem too christian to me, Tristan.
If you wanna see some correlations of your country with regimes you mentioned try to focus on rhetoric of your big leader. One of the reasons for Germans going in to WWI and ending in the arms of nazism was the rhetoric of their “nation chosen by God” nourished by protestant church, which was connected with the executive power (kaiser till the end of WWI, then with Hitler in 30s). Hitler himself was appealing to German people, because he ended the confidence gap created by the big German defeat in WWI (”the war which God wanted to make the German the most powerful nation in the World” as Germans were told back then) and by their material and mental suffering in Weimar republic. He made them believe once again that they are “the chosen nation made to rule the world” and he used quite emotive and religious rhetoric as your president Bush.
And know more then 70 years later, I can see website filled with bullshit about America “the only nation God really loves”, your leader Bush who is chosen by God, lot of plans about extinction of atheists, Germans, muslims etc. Also some plans abou invasion to Canada occured too.
Well, try to react Tristan. Read something about German history and Hitler’s propaganda and think for a while. Maybe you’ll come to the conclusion that if you had the power like Hitler, Europe (I don’t want to use expression “world”, because world is scary place in lot of places right now and in many of them partialy because of U.S. foreign policy) would be a scary place once again.
Thank you all, and God bless America.
Proud German. The Dodo became extinct a few hundred years back, not thousands of years. They were killed off because the island the lived on was safe and they had no predators. Then the europeans came and brought rats which attacked the nests and stole eggs.
Also why do you get so wound up by this site? It’s a sin to criticize God’s will.
God Bless you Shelley! And God Bless America too - and may He keep on doing so until the End Of Times!!
> Right now, 18,5% of the german population are atheists.
29.6% of the Germans are not religious
20.8% are “a bit” religious
(Source: ALLBUS 2002)
Please stop attacking atheists! We’re a persectued minority too you know. We have rights!
And can’t you just leav off with the Hitler stuff already. He’s dead!
Free Da Weed! Free Nelson Mandela! Equal rights for Nicaraguan coffee growers! Ban SUVs! Wear no clothes in public!
Hitler was raised a Catholic & became a Thule Society occultist as an adult! The Nazi soldiers wore belt buckles which had the phrase “Gott mit uns”(God with us) on them! Nazi propaganda was filled with references to God!Civilian German springtime,summer, fall harvest & winter rituals were occultic in nature! The SS was filled with occultists such as the Thule Society! Hitler & the Nazis did Ungodly things but they were hardly athiests! Do some research before you spout off ignorant nonsense!
The Protestant Reich Church.
(Notice any similarities growing in America? Hitler may be dead, but his idea of Nationalism and the “Church” is growing in America).
1. The National Reich’s Church of Germany categorically claims the exclusive right and the exclusive power to control all churches within the borders of the Reich; it declares these to be national churches.
2. The German people must not serve the National Reich Church. The National Reich Church is absolutely and exclusively in the service of but one doctrine: race and nation.
3. The field of activity of the National Reich Church will expand to the limits of Germany’s territorial and colonial possessions.
4. The National Reich Church does not force any German to seek membership therein. The Church will do everything within its power to secure the adherence of every German soul. Other churches or similar communities and unions particularly such as are under international control or management cannot and shall not be tolerated in Germany.
5. The National Reich Church is determined to exterminate irrevocably and by every means the strange and foreign Christian faiths imported into Germany in the ill-omened year 800.
6. The existing churches may not be architecturally altered, as they represent the property of the German nation, German culture and to a certain extent the historical development of the nation. As property of the German nation, they are not only to be valued but to be preserved.
7. The National Reich Church has no scribes, pastors, chaplains or priests but National Reich orators are to speak in them.
8. National Reich Church services are held only in the evening and not in the morning. These services are to take place on Saturdays with solemn illumination.
9. In the National Reich Church German men and women, German youths and girls will acknowledge God and his eternal works.
10. The National Reich Church irrevocably strives for complete union with the state. It must obey the state as one of its servants. As such, it demands that all landed possessions of all churches and religious denominations be handed over to the state. It forbids that in future churches should secure ownership of even the smallest piece of German soil or that such be ever given back to them. Not the churches conquer and cultivate land and soil but exclusively the German nation, the
German state.
11. National Reich Church orators may never be those who today
emphasize with all tricks and cunning verbally and in writing the necessity of maintaining and teaching of christianity in Germany; they not only lie to themselves but also the German nation, goaded by their love of the positions they hold and the sweet bread they eat.
12. National Reich Church orators hold office, government officials under Civil Service rules.
13. The National Reich Church demands immediate cessation of the publishing and dissemination of the Bible in Germany as well as the publication of Sunday papers, pamphlets, publications and books of a religious nature.
14. The National Reich Church has to take severe measures in order to prevent the Bible and other christian publications being imported into Germany.
15. The National Reich Church declares that to it, and therefore to the German nation, it has been decided that the Fuhrer’s “Mein Kampf” is the greatest of all documents. It is conscious that this book contains and embodies the purest and truest ethics for the present and future life of our nation.
16. The National Reich Church has made it its sacred duty to use all its energy to popularize the coeternal “Mein Kampf” and to let every German live and complete his life according to this book.
17. The National Reich Church demands that further editions of this book, whatever form they may take, be in content and pagination exactly similar to the present popular edition.
18. The National Reich Church will clear away from its altars all crucifixes, Bibles and pictures of Saints.
19. On the altars there must be nothing but Mein Kampf, which is to the German nation and therefore to God the most sacred book, and to the left of the altar a sword.
20. The National Reich Church speakers must during church services propound this book to the congregation to the best of their knowledge and ability.
21. The National Reich Church does not acknowledge forgiveness of sins. It represents the standpoint which it will always proclaim that a sin once committed will be ruthlessly punished by the honorable and indestructible laws of nature and punishment will follow during the sinner’s lifetime.
22. The National Reich Church repudiates the christening of German children, particularly the christening with water and the Holy Ghost.
23. The parents of a child (or if a new born child) must only take the German oath before the altar which is worded as follows: The man: “In the name of God I take this Holy oath that I the father of this child, and my wife, are of proven Aryan descent. As a father, I agree to bring up this child in the German spirit and as a member of the German race”. The women: “In the name of God I take this Holy oath that I (name) bore my husband a child and that I its mother am of proven Aryan descent. As a mother, I swear to bring up this child in the German spirit and as a member of the German race”. The German diploma can only be issued to newly born children on the strength of the German oath.
24. The National Reich Church abolishes confirmation and religious education as well as the communion the religious preparation for the communion. The educational institutions are and remain the family, the schools, the German youth, the Hitler youth, and the Union of German girls.
25. In order that school graduation of our German youth be given an especially solemn character, all churches must put themselves at the disposal of German youth, the Hitler youth and the Union of German girls on the day of the state’s youth which will be on the Friday before Easter. On this day the leaders of these organizations exclusively may speak.
26. The marriage ceremony of German men and women will consist of taking an oath of faithfulness and placing the right hand on the sword. There will not be any unworthy kneeling in National Reich Church ceremonies.
27. The National Reich Church declares the tenth day before Whit Sunday to be the national holiday of the German family.
28. The National Reich Church rejects the customary day of prayer and atonement. It demands that this be transferred to the holiday commemorating the laying of the foundation stone of the National Reich Church.
29. The National Reich Church will not tolerate the stablishment of any new clerical religious insignia.
30. On the day of its foundation, the Christian cross must be removed from all churches, cathedrals and chapels within the Reich and its colonies and it must be superseded by the only unconquerable symbol of Germany the “Hakenkreuz”
fucking hell, I agree with you Shelly! God bless America!
something wrong in here???
were are the lies and the twisted facts in the article maybe u forgot to reedit it???
First of all I have to say that this was one extremely entertaining website, especially including the comments. Unfortunately, I’m sorry to say that the hilarity was not intentional, and somewhat to my horror, some people actually believe these things.
Secondly, I have a hard time believing that Tristan, you actually believe the things you wrote. If you actually knew anything about what you were talking about you would realize that almost everything you said above, and in fact the whole basis of your argument, is completely and indefensibly false. I’m sorry you were under the delusion of believing you had any kind of authority to pass judgment on atheists, when you so obviously don’t know what you are talking about. You actually stun me with your absolute lack of knowledge and your blind confidence in what you believe, when you have no basis in fact whatsoever. The name I leave with this comment shows my feelings after reading your entry.
Thirdly, I would just like to tell all you democrats who read this site and become so overwhelmed with disgust and contempt that you are tempted to write angry and profane comments to just be the better person and remember that these are obviously ignorant and ridiculously religious fanatics who won’t change their opinions no matter how clearly wrong they may be, and if you try to educate them, you will find that you could not possibly change their way of thinking because their pride and stupidity will make them cling to the beliefs they had so long defended.
Hitler was a sensitive man…
What I find astounding, as a Christian man, is that people, such a Shelley, actually believe that the repukelican party is the savior of the once great Republic of the united States of America. I find it absolutely astounding that she actually believes that they are better than the dumbocrats. I find it astounding that Shelley can not, and does not, discern in her heart that there is no difference between these two parties other than fighting over which highway to destruction to take.
One would have to be absolute idiot not to see what this repukelican presidency and congress has, is and have in store in the future of America.
I’ll tell you what kind of “christian” Shelley is … When the prophets come and are killed and left in the streets to behold … she will rejoice, make merry and give gifts.
Shelley is no different than those German christians who followed Hitler. Believing he was the savior of Germany. They believed a lie … and so Shelley too … believes in a lie.
How disgusting that she believes it is her “christian duty” to give praise and worship to Bush, while he destroys every Christian foundation that this country once stood for.
May Bush one day in eternity look up and beg those Christian founders of this country and beg they dip their fingers in water to quench his thirst.
Also why do you get so wound up by this site? It?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥s a sin to criticize God?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥s will.
And who?Ǭ¨?Ǭ•s the one to determine god?Ǭ¨?Ǭ•s will? Certainly not Baby Bush or Shelley. The most reliable source would be the pope and he?Ǭ¨?Ǭ•s gainst what the USA do.
@Einmaliger: Sorry, old data.
The German Guy
IMPEACH BUSH!
If Hitler was an athiest, then why did the entire German army’s belt buckles say “God with us?” Nicely said. Tristan, Shelley, you people are complelely delusional idiots and morons
From your blog of April ‘06: “You might be surprised to learn that the most dangerous group in America are the atheists. Atheists are a cult somewhat similar to satanists, but based on the idea that God does not exist. Atheism is the ?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ?official religion?? of much of Europe, especially France and Germany and much of Canada.”
Surely we kicked your butt on this subject but you’re jumping from one conclusion to another. Im just waiting to see this blog get closed as a matter of your preciouse national security.
Guess who are a dying group for real? http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2006/
Ah well, not all republicans are like you. I guess youre the reason smart people exist cause of balance.
“Thank God I’ve always avoided persecuting my enemies!” - Adolf Hitler I could see a lying hypocrite saying that,but an atheist? Hardly!
We don’t know with any degree of accuracy what Hitler’s private thoughts were. The articles from “Table Talk” certainly have a problem with veracity. If they have a problem with veracity, they have a problem with credibility.
Martin Bormann was Hitler’s private secretary and he was non-religious. He wished to make it appear as if Hitler shared his views, and his accounts of Hitler’s opinions vary wildly and suspiciously from ALL other opinions and ALL other evidence.
Only the “edited private thoughts” of hitler (compiled by Bormann) which came to light after he was dead, contradict the hundreds of speeches, documents, radio boradcasts which are corroborated by multiple sources.
Many anti-Christian quotes attributed to Hitler actually came from Bormann himself (for example, Bormann once said that “one can either be a German or a Christian, but not both”, and overzealous Christian apologists have widely promoted the “mistaken” impression that the quote came from Hitler himself).
“Table Talk” as evidence that Hitler hated christianity has only been considered a credible document by christian apologists who wish to play the game of ” hitler wasn’t a nice person, so he couldn’t have been a christian.”
Information IS suspect if it doesn’t have other sources which corroborate it.
There are no contemporaneous sources which corroborate the information in “Table Talk” and the supposed original notes of Bormann’s were destroyed.
Whenever I visit websites advocating views similar to the ones often expressed here, I have the same two reactions, initially:
1) Are they saying this ’stuff’ (a more polite word, I’m sure) simply to get a rise out of people or are they actually serious?
And when I’ve determined that a site is, in fact, serious, I think
2) Where on earth did they learn how to paint with such a huge, sweeping brush?
So I decided to send you a message. Hello. I’m your friendly Canadian atheist, although my nationality doesn’t matter. What does matter is that there are people like me all around you: people who choose free thought over religion, people who choose critical thinking over blanket condemnation, people who choose diversity over close-mindedness, and people who choose friendship over hate.
Some of the people who fit the above criteria will be atheists. Some will be from other philosophical backgrounds. But as long as we’re all alive and well in the next few years and few decades, nonreligious people are not in fact going to be going the way of the dodo.
In fact, we’ll be kicking around with as much regularity as we are now: we’re working with you, or teaching your kids, or bagging your groceries, or passing your bills through the government legislature… but going away, we won’t be doing. (In fact, it would be a good idea for as many freethinkers as possible to step up their “PR” campaigns to ensure that people know exactly WHAT we believe about evolution, about God, about Christians, about science in general — because what’s been ascribed to us in the post I just read certainly isn’t accurate by a long shot!)
Have a great day!
– from an extremely liberal atheist to an apparently extremely conservative Christian.
PS: See you in your kid’s class. Or in the grocery store. Or at work. ;)
“Hence today I believe I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator:by defending myself against the Jew,I am fighting for the work of the Lord”-Adolf Hitler,Mein Kampf “I swear by Almighty God this sacred oath:I will render unconditional obedience to the Fuehrer of the German Reich & People,Adolf Hitler,Supreme Commander of the Wehrmacht,& as a brave soldier I will be ready at any time to stake my life for this oath.”-Hitler Oath of Allegience- August 2nd,1934
“The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity … The deliberate lie in the matter of religion was introduced into the world by Christianity.
I’ll make these damned parsons feel the power of the state in a way they would have never believed possible. For the moment, I am just keeping my eye upon them: if I ever have the slightest suspicion that they are getting dangerous, I will shoot the lot of them. This filthy reptile raises its head whenever there is a sign of weakness in the State, and therefore it must be stamped on. We have no sort of use for a fairy story invented by the Jews.”
[Quoted from Hitler's "Table Talks" with Bormann,
in "Hitler: A Study in Tyranny" by Allan Bullock.]
To equate any non-murderer with Hitler is reprehensible, regardless of your race, religion or creed. Hitler was a murdering sociopath that tapped into the despair of desparate people and surrounded himself with other murdering misanthropes. Look at Maslow’s hierarchy of needs for further understanding on how murderers can engage “normal” people of all persuasions to engage in atrocities.
Atheists are sadly misguided (and back at you. No, back at you. No, back at you. No, back at you… etc…) but those that have been raised in an environment where there is a respect for law and order are generally law-abiding and orderly, but they’ll still have to answer for their choices (God’s gift of free will) at the end, as shall we all.
Christians are also in Canada (maybe) and will see you in your kid’s class, grocery store or at work. And you should listen to them when they talk with you (after they’ve talked to your kids) about having Christ as your personal savior, you just might get eternal life to go with your rutabagas and Molson.
P.S. Bush isn’t going to be impeached. Give it a rest. Why not randomly shout out your support for Che Gueverra or that you love applesauce. It has about the same impact.
IMPEACH CHE’S APPLESAUCE!
what are you talking about? The fascism was based on religion. Both fascists and nazis leaders were deeply religious. I can barely believe you’re talking seriously…
Anyway, you think you are better than them? you think your loved governement, when declaring wars in the name of God all over south America, didn’t killed innocent people? you really think that anyone should be killed or punished or thrown to hell… just for having differents ideas than yours?
The problem of your country is that you only think in yourself. You watch TV all day, merged on what they say and believing that you don’t see it, it doesn’t happen. And if it does happen and is good for your country, doesn’t matter the price.
You justify any of your actions in the name of God, deny human biology pleasures in the name of God. What is wrong with that? Why, i ask you now, why should God put that pleasures in our hands if we shouldn’t use them? and… Forgive my sincerity but I really think that is a bigger perversion and malice that anyone of that “liberal scumm”
You are completely incapable of reckon just for a moment that the Bible should be just a book, nothing more than a book, written thousand of years ago and based on the beliefs of people that lived thousands of years ago. Or should we just go back to slavery because the Bible says it’s right? I really CAN doubt of God’s existence, because, as you said before, i am obviously more clever than you, and I don’t accept whatever I am told without even thinking if it can be no truth. ;)
Anyway, I don’t know why I am wasting my energy on you, because you are so convinced on your faithfull believes , convinced on what the told you… (communism is the devil, atheist are the devil, liberals are the… guess what?) that you won’t waste any energy on thinking of what i say. You, my dear, are the most closed-mind, the most faked and ignorant person i have ever met. I really hope, for the good of mankind, that the majority of Americans are not like you. But i really feel sorry for you, in the end you are just a victim of society :)
He was neither a christian nor an atheist but he was a theist.
Do objective research, you might respect yourself more.
hitler was a fanatic religious and he did hes awefull things “in the name of god”
THE ATHEIST WILL NOT DISAPPEAR!
atheism is a way of reason.
just like was probed that earth is not the center of the universe (and many other things for wich you killed people), one day will be probed that god doesnot exist
im atheist. in five years i would like to talk to you and see if im “converted”
let me anticipate something: i wont. unless i have probes that god exists, i will be an atheist for all my life
atheism is not a bad thing. its based on reason and loving people, not deity
if you are more concerned about loving your god, you will forget about the people, and thats the problem of religions
you would burned Galileo. You would chased “witches” and killed ‘em all.
Instead of worry about atheist, think about all the horrible things that have been made for god or religion.
I dont believe in “the love”, i believe in “to love”.
hitler WAS NOT an atheist. I dont say he would be a nice person if he were. There are good religious and good atheists, but bad religious are more.
you and i have a principal difference:
if you show me probes that god exists, i will believe you. I’m open to anything
You don’t. Is useless that i explain anything to you, cause you will never change
I think you are bad. I hope you change someday
In contrast to other Nazi leaders, Hitler did not adhere to esoteric ideas, occultism, or Nazi mysticism, and even ridiculed such beliefs in private and possibly in public.[13] Drawing on Higher Criticism and some branches of theologically liberal Protestantism, Hitler advocated what he termed Positive Christianity, purged of everything that he found objectionable. Hitler never directed his attacks on Jesus himself,[14] but viewed traditional Christianity as a corruption of the original ideas of Jesus, whom Hitler regarded as an Aryan opponent of the Jews.[15] In Mein Kampf he wrote that Jesus “made no secret of his attitude toward the Jewish people, and when necessary he even took the whip to drive from the temple of the Lord this adversary of all humanity, who then as always saw in religion nothing but an instrument for his business existence. In return, Christ was nailed to the cross.” Hitler rejected the idea of Jesus’ redemptive suffering, stating in 1927: “My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God’s truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter.”[16][17]
If Hitler was an atheist…
http://normdoering.blogspot.com/2007/04/if-hitler-was-atheist.html
Then why did Nazi soldiers ware belt buckles inscribed with “Gott mit uns,” which translates to “God is with us.”
Fascism: Religions extremism used in a governmental context
Communism: Absence of religion because of the problems it always causes.
So, without your false facts, you?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥re fascist, just like Hitler. How are you not like him? You only like white people and you only like Jesus. You are a Nazi.
Read richard dawkin’s God delushion. acturaly think about it instead of dismising it. and then think about how silly youve been ok selly.
ps hitler was not a athesist.
far more killer have been motorvated by faith than by atheism. not even stalin- the one example who were able to find- killed becuse of his athiesm, he killed to keep power.
there is no basis for belief in god.
i suspect you belive in creationism. and your evidence is that the world is so perfect it coulnt have been sheer luck it was created so therfore there must be a intelegent designer. if you leave aside the fact that the world is nto perfect and evolution explans the devlopment to a more perfect state. you evidence e.q the world, could just as easily support the view that oden or zeus or any other god exist, so therfore you cannot be sure that you cristian god exists so therefore must reserve jugement
As a representative of that insignificant area otherwise known as the rest of the world, I’d like to say a few words about this site.
Excuse me; ahahahahaha, this is ridiculous, I can’t believe the amount of bs that is excreted from this site. The pile would probably be much higher than the collective pile of all conspiracy theorists.
Hitler did admit in private to the General Gerhart Engel (who recorded this statement in his diary), “I am now as before a Catholic and will always remain so.” He might have overplayed his Christian convinctions in public, but he made it very clear throughout his life that he DID believe in a God or some sort of active deity, whom he often referred to as “Creator” or “Providence”:
“I am convinced that I am acting as the agent of our Creator. By fighting off the Jews. I am doing the Lord’s work” (Mein Kampf).
Certainly, he feared the influence and the power of Church and sought to suppress it as he grew stronger. With the religious leaders he was able to garner support from, he supported. From those he thought was either too powerful and/or didn’t support him, he suppressed. Hitler ALSO led active campaigns against atheists — even resorting to physical force — denouncing them over and over again:
“We were convinced that the people need and require this faith. We have therefore undertaken the fight against the atheistic movement, and that not merely with a few theoretical declarations: we have stamped it out.” (Speech in Berlin, October 24, 1933)
However, Hitler’s religious beliefs are too complex to classify in either “Christian” or “Athiest”. In public, Hitler claimed to be a devout Christians, but in private, he often complained about Christianity’s “meekness and flabbines” in favor of “the religion of the Japanese, who regard sacrifice for the Fatherland as the highest good? The Mohammedan religion too would have been much more compatible to us than Christianity” (The Holy Reich).
Hitler’s criticisms against Chrisitianity were never directed towards Jesus, whom he saw as “…the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God’s truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter” (The Holy Reich). Hitler regarded TRADITIONAL Christianity as a corruption of the original ideas of Jesus, and so he amd other Nazi party leaders sought to purge the influence of the church by completely extirpating Christianity and replacing it with their own racist religion (Nuremberg Trials documents available at Cornell University).
But more importantly, who cares? He wasn’t a representative of either views or of any other Christian or Athiest, so I don’t see why this is so important that we have go back and forth pettily whether he was a Christian or an Athiest. This pettiness only they serves to “insult and polarize the good people on each side, and trivialize the comparatively minor, yet still dangerous, elements within”, to quote Mark Vuletic. Hitler was Hitler; his actions reflect the NATURE of the MAN he was, and nothing else. The end.
this conversation is M.A.D. the only way to win is not to play, however I must jump in with only this to say leve us atheists alone, you have no right to bother us or attack us just because we do not follow your religious chices.
Also check out the Brights http://www.the-brights.net/
their are no atheists in fox holes, however i like to think that that is because we are smart enough not to start or fight wars. -AMC