Jesus is NRA Member!
Dear Readers
You might be shocked to hear this but I really believe that Jesus would be a member of the National Rifle Association. Jesus is, unlike our towel-head-muslim-terrorist counterparts, all against violence. Jesus is love, but does it say anywhere in the Bible that there is something wrong with self defence? NO, of course not! God and His son Jesus Christ believe in self defense. Statistics say that firearms are used purely for self defense in 80% of all shootings. So, why do liberals claim that Jesus would be against guns? That is nonsense of course. Jesus loves guns and Jesus wants you to have guns.
I urge you to buy as many guns as you can afford. The future is uncertain and there might be more terrorist attacks on America. You need to be prepared for the worst. Think about it: In a society where guns are illegal, only criminals own guns, just like on the planes on 9/11 where one rag-head had a weapon and all the others where defense-less. Don’t let this happen to America again!
Thank you for reading,
Shelley The Republican
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Can someone explain how through guns, peace is created? Guns are made for pure destruction, even if it is in defense. Destruction does not create peace. I thought Jesus was supposed to be pro-peace…
I must say, you are quite a paranoid individual.
When I felt my safety was threatened by living alone in a bad neighborhood, I took up martial arts as a form of self defense. Not only is it better for the body and mind, it’s a hell of a lot better than accidently shooting a gun at someone you perhaps didn’t mean to shoot at, which is what happened to a friend once. Dealing with a dead body that you created in an act of your own stupidity is pretty hard to explain to the cops and deal with in court.
O M G^^
I think, Jesus loves everyone, and would convince all the muslems to get baptized.
Your caption states a fact (”Jesus is NRA Member!”) and then you place a belief (”I really believe that Jesus would be a member of the National Rifle Association.”).
And if I recall properly, Jesus’ Lifetime Membership should have ended some two millenia ago, right?
If he were a member, he would have shot you and Bush a long time ago for beeing so damn retarded…
M??¢‚Ǩ¬¢tte dere alle brenne, Hilsen Mr.X
“Think about it: In a society where guns are illegal, only criminals own guns,”
This is wrong my dear… in a society where guns are illegal, the criminals can get a gun, on the black market, but the Enforcers of Law, and soldiers, also have guns. Just give guns to the ones who have the right to use it in a civilizated way, and everithing will go smoothly.
There in your beloved country, everyone (even a 16 yo boy) can buy a M16 assault rifle, enter a school and kill 30 younglings without hesitation.
This is very difficult to happen in Europe, if not nearly impossible.
So… who are the civilizated people??
The far west was over 150 years ago… get used to it!!
Ok shelly u nazi.
Let me hit you with a few REAL things.
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“Jesus loves guns and Jesus wants you to have guns.”
Ok god and jesus would prefer (if they exsisted) that you killed no1, even in self defence, make the in capcitated, and then hand them over to the police, that way they have decent punishment, insteada just getting off scot free by being dead and not caring anymore.
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“Think about it: In a society where guns are illegal, only criminals own guns, just like on the planes on 9/11 where one rag-head had a weapon and all the others where defense-less.”
The “Raghead” had a fucking craft knife, the one with a slide out blade? how could u not fucking defend yourself against that? if it was me, i would just run up and punshed the guy when he wasn’t looking, thats wat happened on one plane, thats why it crashed in a paddock, not into a building (white house was presumed target)
ALSO
In New Zealand it is illegal to carry firearms with u, keep fire arms stored while loaded, and u must store ammo in a seperate room, and the saftey lock in again a different room.
and over here, sure criminals have guns, but we don’t have the same mentality over here as u in america do, we have around 50 murders a year, with a population of 4 million. Chicago (1 city) has that in a day, the whole of america has more murders in one day than new zealand does in fuckign 15 years.
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“Statistics say that firearms are used purely for self defense in 80% of all shootings.”
This is something i found on the net
“Less than 100,000 (or around 100k) people are killed or injured by guns each year. Yet they’re used for self defense 2.5 million times.”
ok but even though u may be sitting there thinking, hey shit i got somthign right, think again. becuase in america they have the, “shoot first, ask questions later” policy, out of those 2.6million shootings total, 100,000 were obvious blatent crazy shooting, and then the other 2.5million were DEEMED Self defense, but about another 500,000 were cause people were doing wrong, and a civilian pulled a gun on them, so the wrong do’er used there gun to defend themselves. so is more like 70% are used for self defense over murder/intent to injure.
BUT
out of every admitance to hospital/or morturary for being attacked, only about 7-12% a day are from ppl defending themselves, the rest are from people killing other ppl, with knives, baseball bats, guns, and other things that can be used as weapons.
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“Jesus is, unlike our towel-head-muslim-terrorist counterparts, all against violence.”
NO FUCKING SHIT DUMBASS! What it take u to work that out?
how about u put it this way;
“Both Islam and Christianity do not encite violence, but as we all know islam has a small quantity of extremist islamic terrorists, christianity on the other hand, has a large amount of people who will kill and die for god, but god does not want people to kill and die for him, he wants people to all just get along, no matter what religion you follow, or what colour your skin is, or any thing like that. Islam also has the same problem, i’m sure their god just wants people to get along too.”
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hmmm i think thats all i have to say, if i think of anything more, i will notify u.
Oh Atheist god…
Where are you from???
Dont you got schools in your country???
Nazis are a little bit different…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi
greetz from germany
Jesus is love, but does it say anywhere in the Bible that there is something wrong with self defence?
Turn the other cheek…
Statistics say that firearms are used purely for self defense in 80% of all shootings.
I?Ǭ¨?Ǭ•d like to see those statistics. Seems so unlikely.
I urge you to buy as many guns as you can afford. The future is uncertain and there might be more terrorist attacks on America. You need to be prepared for the worst. Think about it: In a society where guns are illegal, only criminals own guns, just like on the planes on 9/11 where one rag-head had a weapon and all the others where defense-less. Don?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥t let this happen to America again!
If noone is allowed to be armed except the government, then how do the crimnals get their arty? Oh, adn beng armed in a 9/11 plane would not have changed much. The terrorists had the initiative and surprise and were better trained than any civilian. That?Ǭ¨?Ǭ•s enough. Oh, and shooting inside a plane at something like 10.000 meters can be quite hazardous to your health. Air pressure and stuff…
Dealing with a dead body that you created in an act of your own stupidity is pretty hard to explain to the cops and deal with in court.
And with your own conscience. That?Ǭ¨?Ǭ•s the worst part. Have seen someone break because of it after his weapon malfunctioned in an exercise with live ammo. Luckily the one who was shot at survived. He (the guy with the weapon) was still unable to continue service afterwards. Conscience can be a real bitch.
@Atheist God: AMEN!
The German Guy
IMPEACH BUSH!
Fribs
I really don’t see the diffrence between shelly and a nazi.
She hates Jews
Nazis hate Jews
She hates gays
Oh look so do nazis
She hates Blacks
Nazis hate anyone who isn’t their perfect image (blonde hair, blue eyes, white skin)
She has her perfect image (Extremist American Christian)
Nazis have perfect image
Shelly wants war with every1 who’s not american and doesn’t agree with christianity.
Nazi’s want war with everyone who is against their polices.
Starting to notice similarities people?
I bet she wants disbled peopel dead too.
also fribs i belive it goes a bit more like this.
“Do you not have schools in your country?”
Please check your gramma before calling some1 else stupid lol.
Unfortunatly I am dead so my membership is expired, lol
Alas, so is mine, but who needs a gun liscence wen we have unlimited AK-47’s at our disposal?
THANKS GOD!
*runs around shooting innocent iraqis*
Come on jesus help me out, it’ll be fun!
Nazis were for gun control! In fact,every dictatorship had gun control,some nations had gun laws on the books before they became dictatorships(Germany in 1928)! The book “Lethal Laws” documents those laws and points out the connection between gun control and genocide! It’s available from Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership: http://www.jpfo.org
“Christ is the English form of the Greek word ??????? (Christ??s), which means literally The Anointed One.”
Just wanted to say that “Christ” is a greek word. Just read your article about ancient greece and think about it :O
btw, as always, hilarious article, too funny.
So jesus should have simply defended himself against the Romans at Gethsemane instead of allow his crucifixion?
I’m kind of confused at this “jesus loves the NRA” assertion. The only violence jesus ever did was whipping the moneychangers, but if anybody ever deserved a whipping it was the money loving people who defiled a house of god.
Hey, 44 mag, ammunition, plane ticket and just one guy who looks like he is going to hijack my plane. Priceless.
What will you stand for? See the Republican Rag
Come on Shelly, stop joking. You must laughing at all the people actually taking the time to reply to such insanities.
By the way, I do not envy your country one bit. A lot less paranoia and racial hatred on our side or the border.
I personally don’t like guns, but folks come on now, guns are necessary. In our perfect little world( which most of you people must be living in) there would be no need to have guns, but in the real world there is a need. As they say, “Guns don’t kill people, people do”, if folks would quit being pyschos, then maybe there would be alot less killing going on. Besides, would you rather be shot to death( very nice and simple way of killing) or would you want to be beaten to a bloody puddle, or maybe chopped into little pieces. Killing will continue until the world ends people, wether there are guns or not!
P.S.- ( to all y’all who say Jesus wouldn’t want guns)YOU DON’T KNOW JESUS, so maybe he would like guns.
Albert,
A 16 y.o. can not legally buy a gun in the U.S. I don’t know where you get that idea.
Atheist God,
You are an idiot! I don’t think there are near as many Christian extremists willing to kill and die for God as there are Muslim extremists willing to do it for ALLAH.
If you are trying to imply that our armed forces are doing that, you really are nuts.
[...] Jesus Christ loves Guns! Guns made the Christian way of Life like we know it possible! [...]
It seems to me that you are forgetting Jesus’s reputed “Sermon on the mount” spoken of in the 3 synoptic Gospels, in which he very expressively refutes the old biblical ways of “eye for an eye”, opposing it as a destructive attitude, and this pioneered his “Turn the other cheek” philosophy. You want to give Jesus a gun, you want to pretend that he would enjoy it and support it out of the shallow superficialities of your ego. But, I dont know, having a hard time believing this site is for real, I *honestly* dont know if anybody can actually truly believe the bullshit you say. Im pretty sure this is the most elaborate and committed satire on the internet. If youre goal was to make fundamentalist republicans look like idiots, congratulations it worked! lol…
I don’t think that part of the bible is true! Jesus is a guy that FIGHTS for what is right!
Shelley says
“I don?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥t think that part of the bible is true!”
The Bible says
“All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness.”
Shelley rejects Biblical truth because her human reasoning cannot accept God’s truth.
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Then Jesus said to him, “Put your sword back into its place; for all those who take up the sword shall perish by the sword.
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What Berean says is true, this line of biblical text is one of the greatest achievements of christianity and, as a christian, something worth very proud of.
Shelley is a political outspoken woman, but she should not let that interfere with her passion for her faith and reject the words of written truth.
Guns KILL, Thats What They Were Made To Do, The Gun Has No Mind, Its A Metal Device To Propel A Small Object Fast Enough To KILL.
God Doesnt Want Us To KILL People, Jesus Doesnt Either.
You Are A Satanist Whackjob.
http://www.guncontrol.ca/
Us Canadians Control The Sale Of Firearms So People Dont Kill Innocents.
Those People Who Died Werent Sinners.
Read This Fact And Wallow In Your Own Self Regression
Q - Don’t civilians need guns to protect themselves?
Answer:
As the US example has shown all too well, arming for self protection does not work, it only serves to escalate violence. While murder rates without guns are roughly comparable between our two countries, the firearm homicide rate in the US is 7.9 times greater and handgun homicide 14.5 times higher than in Canada. Uncontrolled access to guns puts officers at risk - the more guns that widely accessible, the greater the risk to police. Widespread access to guns in the United States has increased risk for police officers. In 1997, 1 police officer was murdered on the job in Canada, while in the US, with a population ten times greater than Canada and much easier access to guns, there were 64 police officers murdered on duty and 63 of them were killed with a firearm. In San Diego for example, one in three drivers apprehended for traffic infractions is armed. Our law and values do not support arming civilians for self protection.
I am a resident of Canada and a born again Christian. I am really confused! How can people say that God wants us to have our own AK47s and use them to fight others! God said to love your enemy! Did God go around with an army fighting the Romans? No! He loved them, ate with them, and showed love and peace! We need to be like Jesus, Gandhi, Mother Teresa, etc. Loving others and promoting peace! And about this Gun control issue. You don’t need guns. And more guns wont fix the problem! Watch the video “Bowling for Columbine.” The reason why the crime rates are so high in the United Sates is because of the accessibility of guns and all the violence on television. The media is feeding children violence and killing as entertainment! And those arcade games that teach children to hold down the trigger and shoot everything in sight until you run out of targets or ammo! American children are growing up into trigger happy, aggressive, desensitized kids. Murder rates are just going to increase in years to come. Americans need to take control of their gun laws before they have entire armies amongst them selves. I would not worry about terrorists. The USA is going to end up killing themselves!
Shelley, you are truly a spokeswoman for Christ our Lord.
I am resident in Great Britain, a country that is mostly run by liberal faggots. As a result, I am unable to protect myself the way the Lord intended, while all sorts of ragheads and subhuman criminal are able to threaten me however they choose.
Things were a little better here for a while when Tony Blair was in charge, but then he was stabbed in the back by the regressive communist Gordon Brown. Since then, our entire banking system has collapsed and we face seeing our once mighty nation ground beneath the heels of liberals and homosexuals from Europe. My only hope is my shed full of gold coins, guns and petrol, which I hope will keep me safe in the end times.
How I long for America’s clean air!
DearRichard May,
You have homosexual tendencies and liek it up the arse.
Yours Sincerly,
Atheist God.
“God and His son Jesus Christ believe in self defense.”
And I quote:
“But I say to you, do not resist an evil person; but whoever slaps you on the right cheek, turn the other to him also. If anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, let him have your coat coat also. Whoever forces you go one mile, go with him two.” Matthew 5:39-41
And since Shelley doesn’t believe that part of the Bible, here’s some more:
“Blessed are the merciful, for they shall recieve mercy.” Matthew 5:7
“Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called the sons of God.” Matthew 5:9
“I say to you, My friends, do not be afraid of those who kill the body and after that they have no more that they can do.” Luke 12:4
Lets see if your faith is strong enough for you to turn the other cheek, Shelley.
An american shooted me yesterday, now i’m dead.
USA is full of guns, the country of the death.
Atheist God,
What an insightful comment. I note that you can’t spell, are godless, and have a suspicious familiarity with homosexual practises, but I shan’t stoop to your level of abuse.
Well, first off, Jesus was a pacifist. So, I doubt he would in any way endorse guns.
As for explaining the use of a gun to the police, it is simple. I would just say, “I perceived a threat to my safety and acted accordingly.” I guess what actually happened to Tessa’s friend could be complete stupidity though. But, the fact remains that the person felt threatened. It was just their inability to assess the situation first that was the REAL issue.
As for the right to own guns. I am sorry that other parts of the world don’t want you to protect your life and property, even at home. As in New Zealand where the ammo and weapon must be kept in separate rooms. Idiotic!
As for how weapons secure peace. It is the threat of their USE that secures the peace. If others desire to save their own life and limb is strong enough, the knowledge that your neighbor possess the ability to end yours could be enough. Hence nuclear proliferation during the “cold war”. the “super powers” had these weapons and the threat of total destruction kept the peace.
As for you people outside this country, your comments really aren’t necessary. This is an issue that stems from OUR constitution. It gave us the right to keep and bear arms. The oath of office as well as the military, as far as I remember has the words “against all enemies, foreign and domestic” in it. If “we the people” were NOT allowed to have guns then we can’t defend against the domestic enemies, now can we? Especially if that enemy is our liberal government tryint to subvert our constitutional rights!
Dear BuffaloChips
While I must admit having to keep your gun and ammo in different rooms, with your gun dismantled, is a bit over the top, who cares, we don’t have a great need to protect ourselves from idiots, unlike you in USA. It is about the morals and ideas of the people of the country.
By the way.
The homicide rate in New Zealand in 2004 was 52, we have 4 million people.
Chicago has 3 million people.
“After adopting crime-fighting techniques recommended by Los Angeles’ and New York City Police Departments in 2004,[3] Chicago recorded 448 homicides, the lowest total since 1965″
Buffalo Chips:
“As for how weapons secure peace. It is the threat of their USE that secures the peace. ”
The thing is, America, with its high homicide rate, is very clear proof of the failure of this argument. The more people have guns, the more people die. If everyone else has a gun, maybe you think you need one for self-defence, but if other people don’t generally have guns, it doesn’t seem that significant.
“Hence nuclear proliferation during the ?¢‚Ǩ?ìcold war?¢‚Ǩ¬ù. the ?¢‚Ǩ?ìsuper powers?¢‚Ǩ¬ù had these weapons and the threat of total destruction kept the peace.”
The analogy doesn’t work as it was based on mutually assured destruction. It also doesn’t work because facts (eg the high US murder rate) conflict with the theory.
“As for you people outside this country, your comments really aren?¢‚Ǩ‚Ñ¢t necessary. This is an issue that stems from OUR constitution. It gave us the right to keep and bear arms. ”
I’m outside, but half-American. Maybe this is an issue that is easier to understand from outside. I don’t know how you get from a gun society to a society with few guns, but it would be much better for you guys if you’d start trying to work that out.
The constitution was a document designed to deal with specific problems. If the problems change, then the founders would have been smart enough to adapt.
Besides which the second Amendment doesn’t even say what the NRA claims it says. “A well-regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed” - it’s clear that the sentence is about the Militia and the right to keep and bear arms is framed within that. There are various different ways that sentence could be construed legally, but I think the dumbest interpretation is that it says that everyone should own a gun, and that even if this leads to a stupdendous murder rate, nothing will change, ever, ever.
“When I felt my safety was threatened by living alone in a bad neighborhood, I took up martial arts as a form of self defense.”
YES
That’s exactly what we should do. If a plane is hijacked, shooting a gun would just make everyone die a few minutes earlier when they get sucked through a bullet-sized hole. If there were 1 or 2 black belts on those planes, 9/11 may have been prevented…. of course it could also have been prevented if Bush had acted on all the intel he had, instead of sitting on his stupid lazy ass and reading to kindergartners…
Thalia,
No, you are wrong. Just because you are a gun fearing pussy doesn’t mean that a people that has been guaranteed the right to bear arms should take your stance. You get back to me after you live in a really bad neighborhood and some “goblin” breaks into your home and attacks and robs you. Then you tell me you wouldn’t rather be able to protect your life and possessions. If you say no, you will either be lying or just a plain coward.
And, you martial artists, keep thinking that will help you when the attacker has a weapon. Especially if it’s a gun. Why should ANY human have to sit back and allow a “goblin” to enter your home and take whatever he wants without a fight? If I had a gun in my home and you entered it uninvited in the middle of the night, you would be leaving feet first. I wouldn’t ask questions.
@BuffaloChips:
“If I had a gun in my home and you entered it uninvited in the middle of the night, you would be leaving feet first. I wouldn?¢‚Ǩ‚Ñ¢t ask questions.”
Now, is there any question why the rate of violent crime is so much higher in America. You, sir are a danger to society and especially your family.
P.S. A great many martial arts have extensive teaching on self defense, which often includes how to disarm and disable a person with a firearm.
P.P.S.
What if the “goblin” finds your gun first?
Dear BuffaloChips
You my dear, are an idiot. A martial artist is trained in self defense, this includes disarming a person.
Also as for the bad neighbourhood, here in New Zealand, we don’t have anywhere that you need to worry, hell we don’t even lock our doors at night. If someone broke into my house, armed with a gun, he would probably have a shotgun or a rifle, now, those are fucking deadly weapons, but in the confines of a house, they are harder to manuver than a pistol. So basically he breaks in, and you hear him, you pick up the nearest heavy object and go out to ivestigate, you see him, and because your eyes are most likely better adjusted to the light than his, because he’s come in from a well lit up outside, where as you’ve been in the dark, you’ll probably see him first, which gives you time to see the rifle/shotgun, and smash him in the head.
Also, a shotgun or rifle is much much harder to conceal than a pistol, so the person is likely to be spotted by a cop or neighbourhood watch if they walk, and if they drive up your driveway, you’ll hear them first, and take them out before they take you out.
I’ve had my house broken into once, it was a guy with a knife, you want to know what I did? I grabbed a lamp when I heard someone break a window, and went to investigate, in the center of my living room, there was a guy, holding a knife out in front of him, I laid into him before he realised I was there. I ended up knocking him out within the first few seconds, rang the cops, they got there pretty quick, and took him away.
But the fact is, there are major differences between New Zealand and USA. USA has always, and will always be a violent country, NZ has generally been peaceful. It’s the way people see and do things, how they react e.t.c.
BuffaloChips
“No, you are wrong. Just because you are a gun fearing pussy doesn?¢‚Ǩ‚Ñ¢t mean that a people that has been guaranteed the right to bear arms should take your stance. ”
Did you read what I wrote about the actual wording of the 2nd amendment? The NRA may interpret it to mean that, but I don’t.
“You get back to me after you live in a really bad neighborhood and some ?¢‚Ǩ?ìgoblin?¢‚Ǩ¬ù breaks into your home and attacks and robs you. Then you tell me you wouldn?¢‚Ǩ‚Ñ¢t rather be able to protect your life and possessions. ”
I’ve lived in some of London’s worst areas and have dealt with burglaries and attempted muggings. At no point did I think that a gun would have made me safer. Look at the statistics. Are the people who die from gunshot wounds in the US 100% criminals shot by victims? No. Having guns in your society vastly increases the numbers who die, whether innocent or guilty. If I were in the US I would consider having a gun simply because so many others do, but I wouldn’t be so dumb as to think that everyone having guns was making me safer.
“If you say no, you will either be lying or just a plain coward.”
Sad that so many Americans are so solipsistic and ignorant on this question. Just remember the basic facts. In Europe we have plenty of crime, but far less people are shot and killed by criminals. So the self-defense argument is simply bullshit. The guns make you more likely to be shot, not more likely to be able to defend yourself. That’s not a cowardly attitude, it’s an analysis of what actually happens in societies with and without guns.
@ that dude,
Hey moron, the violent crime committed is the home invasion, not me shooting him in defense of me and mine. IT IS NOT A CRIME TO PROTECT YOURSELF!
For Thalia, I know the wording of the 2nd amendment. Can you explain to me how a militia can defend against a “domestic enemy,” such as our own government, without weapons? The argument is out there that the National Guard fills that role, but how can it when it is subject to the federal government?
The Demcong want guns taken away so, if the day comes, they don’t have to worry about a revolt after they turn America into a socialist state.
Violent crime is violent crime, gun or not. Citizen Joe Schmucatelli LEGALLY possessing a gun does nothing to add to the crime rate. It is the criminal, who possesses a gun ILLEGALLY, who normally is the one committing the crime. See, you people confuse crime and crime rates with legal possession. Get your shit straight and complain about the proper thing.
People like to say things like, “Let the police, who are trained to use them deal with the criminal.” Well I just came across something that says that the police are in no way required to protect you. There are numerous court cases that back that up. That is here in America people, not the countries in the EUrinal.
“It is the criminal, who possesses a gun ILLEGALLY”
… The criminal posseses the gun LEGALLY as well… he just chooses to rob houses or whatever with it…
“Violent crime is violent crime, gun or not. Citizen Joe Schmucatelli LEGALLY possessing a gun does nothing to add to the crime rate. ”
Bullshit. The fact that Joe is likely to have a gun increases the chance of a criminal shooting first. Universal gun possession increases death rates both for the innocent and for the guilty.
And it’s perfectly possible to defend the right to self-defense without supporting the NRA and universal gun rights.
But if you want your country to go on having some of the highest homicide rates in the world, go on, you stick to that dumbass interpretation of the 2nd Amendment, and your bizarre obsession with doing whatever you believe the Constitution says. Have fun defending yourself with your guns. The world will get along fine with a few less Americans in it.
You know, all you GFP’s still have a major problem. It isn’t the weapon that kills, it is the person that holds the weapon. Funny how someone gets stabbed to death, but no one calls for a ban on knives. Someone deliberately runs down and kills people with a car, yet no cry for a ban there either.
Besides, show me the statistics that say criminals who LEGALLY own weapons occur in higher number that criminals ILLEGALLY possessing them.
I don’t see how you can defend the right to be able to defend yourself without possessing the very thing that defends you.
And just because you people in the EUrinal would rather depend on law enforcement to save you in the event of an attack doesn’t mean that people everywhere should have to.
@Thalia,
Exactly how is it that Joe Schmucatelli LEGALLY possessing a gun in his home going to add to the crime rate. Unless you think he is going to run around loudly declaring he has one. Because if someone breaks into his home and he has one, but doesn’t declare it to the intruder, what would make the intruder shoot first? Maybe simply the fact that he saw Joe come into the room and didn’t want a witness that could identify him?
You break into my home and I have a gun, I won’t announce that I have a gun. Well, that is except for the sound of it firing. Then it’ll be too late for him.
Buffalo Chips
“Besides, show me the statistics that say criminals who LEGALLY own weapons occur in higher number that criminals ILLEGALLY possessing them.”
What are you drivelling on about. You live in a society where anyone can walk into a store and come out with a gun. There’s no legal check on whether you are a ‘criminal’ or not. Someone intending to rob a house can get guns legally just as easily as you.
“You break into my home and I have a gun, I won?¢‚Ǩ‚Ñ¢t announce that I have a gun. Well, that is except for the sound of it firing. Then it?¢‚Ǩ‚Ñ¢ll be too late for him.”
This isn’t about individual cases, it’s about the whole society. In the UK it’s still extremely unlikely that either the householder or the burglar has a gun. Even if one or the other has a gun, he doesn’t expect to have to shoot first.
Whereas in the US where guns are widespread, the only safe assumption is that the other party has a gun and this (on the level of games theory) makes it rational to shoot first. As you’ve accepted in pointing out that you’d shoot first, ask questions later. You have that attitude, so does the burglar, one of you is pretty likely to end up dead, with no guarantee it will be the burglar.
As a result you, as an American, are far more likely to be shot by a burglar (or even by a passing stranger having a nervous breakdown) than me in the UK.
But as I said, don’t bother fixing your broken society if you like it that way. We don’t really care if you all want to shoot each other, might be an improvement.
Thalia
You really are a moron. In America, the only guns you can just go purchase and walk away with are RIFLES! Handguns require a criminal check and something like a 4 or 5 day wait! Look up information before you yap on.
Then you are trying to imply that people with legal guns are highly likely to commit violent crimes. So, point to the statistics that show that LEGAL gun ownership has a higher crime rate that ILLEGAL gun ownership.
As for the likelihood that a criminal has a gun or not doesn’t matter to me at all. If he has invaded my home, I would not want to worry if he had any kind of weapon to attack me with. So, if I had the gun, there would be a bang.
The real broken part of OUR society is the socialist fucks like you that want to control every aspect of our lives!
So, according to the Bureau of Justice Statistics’ official website (www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs), the following is true:
80% of inmates who possess a gun reicieved it from an illegal source
“Of all nonfatal firearm-related injuries treated in emergency departments, 62% were known to have resulted from an assault. For firearm-related fatalities, 44% were homicides.”
Homicides are most often committed with guns. Specifically handguns.
According to records from the B.J.S. from 1976 - 2005, handguns have killed eponentially more people than any other weapon, and in some years, knives have surpassed firearms other than handguns in total homicides.
Therefore:
A. A criminal is not likely to carry a rifle or semiautomatic weapon. They are likely to carry handguns.
B. The handgun is likely to be illegal.
In this case, it is obvious that you have not researched your statistics. Please do so before you post another stronly worded comment like the one previous to this.
What my point actually was there (I’m a bit out of it today), was that the criminal check obviously doesn’t work.
Also, if someone comes into your house, they are likely to be on the lookout for you, the homeowner. If they are a repeat offender, they may have the drop on you. I wouldn’t count on a gun to save you then.
@43. BuffaloChips:
Sorry I didn’t see this earlier.
If you shoot him it becomes a violent crime statistically. Also, breaking and entering is not a violent crime. It’s a misdemeanor.
God loves guns. He is a southern republican that loves guns and hates taxes.
Jesus told His disciples to buy swords to defend themselves and loved ones. Swords were the equivalent of firearms 2000 years ago. Jesus wasn’t a total pacifist,he believed in self-defense.”Turn the other cheek” was about humbling yourself before someone you offended,not pacifism! The reason He admonished Peter for attacking the Roman soldier who came to arrest the Lord was because crucifiction was part of His mission to offer Himself up as a sacrifice for mankind to be saved through faith in Christ.”Living by the sword” isn’t the same thing as self defense! ———————————— On another note,in Taiwan it’s a capital offense for civilians to own firearms! But the per-capita firearms murder rate is much higher than in the US!
I am very sure that Christ never asked his disciples to purchase swords or weapons. He was not building an army! He did, however, instructed his disciples to be merciful and loving toward others, even the ones who hate and kill them. ——-
I am not an American, (I’m a Canadian) and therefore do not really have the experience to be able to determine the problems or advantages with the gun control laws. However, I do have a growing understanding of scripture and I do believe that God did not promote this kind of aggressive self defense.
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God Bless all of You
And God Bless America!
@LEWIS, Luke22:36; Then He said unto them,”But now,he that hath a purse,let him take it,and likewise his scrip;and he that hath no sword.let him sell his garment,and buy one.” Luke 22:38; And they said,Lord,behold,here are two swords. And He said unto them,”It is enough.”
@Sara Carter, Libertarians,Constitution Party members and others who aren’t Republicans are opposed to the income tax and want it abolished! Do you know that a graduated income tax is one of the 10 planks of the Communist Manifesto? If you’ve never read the 10 planks,look it up! Here’s an article on the subject of income tax I highly recommend! “Why an Income Tax is NOT Necessary to Fund the U.S. Government” by Devvy Kidd http://www.devvy.com/notax.html
Your contributor wrote, “You might be shocked to hear this but I really believe that Jesus would be a member of the National Rifle Association…. Jesus is love, but does it say anywhere in the Bible that there is something wrong with self defence? NO, of course not!” But he or she overlooks the fact that Christian teaching is different than Jewish teaching. Christian theology is available foremost in the Four Gospels of the New Testament, where the prophet’s actual words appear (translated from Aramaic to Greek to English). Jesus said, according to the Gospels, and I quote precisely, “Do not resist an evil person.” Now he does not say the words “self defense,” but don’t the sane and logical among us admit that “resisting an evil person” is considered “self defense?” (By the way, I am not so naive as to believe that the reactionaries who run this web site can actually understand any of what I just wrote. Part of being a bona fide reactionary depends on persisting with sophistry and adamant obscurantism. Fear is not cured by logic or reason, but by spiritual religion and wisdom.)
“Shelly” wrote, “In a society where guns are illegal, only criminals own guns, just like on the planes on 9/11 where one rag-head had a weapon and all the others where defense-less. Don’t let this happen to America again!”
Let us bypass the point that “defenseless” is not a hyphenated word and address the more horrific stupidity here. This argument - that “only criminals own guns” in a society where they are illegal - is totally untrue and ridiculous. However, those who own guns in violation of the law are perhaps committing a serious crime, thus they would be considered at least nominally “criminal”. But the larger point here is that law enforcement in every nation is authorized to have firearms (albeit in some countries they are not carried by common patrolmen). Let’s face it, people who write this “Shelly the Republican” nonsense learn nothing at all from the fact that England, France, Canada and many other modern democracies have strong gun control laws and also have much lower gun crime rates, crime rates, and murder rates (and all this with no death penalty too!!!). This fact is meaningless to somebody fully indoctrinated into the religion of oppression-advocating misantrhopy (even while they fancy themselves “Christians”).
Be the animal you are… defend yourself with your own bare hands.
@Danny Dito i don’t read articles like the one you highly recommend i also will not read an aticle if it’s anti american. i strongly believe people should pay income taxes i also believe pay who do not pay taxes should be jailed for not paying their taxes. i’m sorry danny dito and STR but as an upstanding tax payer i will not read that article neither you danny dito or STR will ever change my mind on the subject.i strongly believe people should pay taxes and i stand by that belief now and forever and danny dito and STR i don’t give a fuck what you think of my belief in income tax cause you can kiss my ass.
@Infamous Biatch, A:I am not nor have I ever been affiliated with STR. B: The Founding Fathers were opposed to direct taxes,the Income Tax being such a tax. The original Constitution called for excise tax,tariffs,impost and duties but not income tax! C: As I previously stated,the Income tax is a plank of the Communist Manifesto,so how could being opposed to it be “anti american”? … Since you’re unwilling to read the article because your mind is made up and you don’t want to be confused with facts,go ahead and remain ignorant! You’ve got a lot of damned nerve claiming an article you refuse to read is “anti american” which implies I’m also “anti american”! I’m opposed to the degeneration of a limited republic into a warfare/welfare state, a corporatist (fascist) empire as would the Founding Fathers! You can fall for the statist,collectivist propaganda like the rest of the stupid sheeple,but I woke up to the truth fifteen years ago and stopped being a sheeple! I pay the damned Income Tax that MOSTLY FUNDS THE WAR MACHINE because I fear the jack-booted thugs that would arrest me under color of law! The damned tax is a fraud! The Amendment authorizing an income tax was never properly ratified,therefore it’s Unconstitutional,i.e. UNLAWFUL! The modern federal government bureaucracy and federal statute laws are Unconstitutional,i.e. UNLAWFUL! The Federal Reserve is a fraudulent banking corporation that prints debt-based currency and is also Unconstitutional,i.e. UNLAWFUL! Gold and silver coin minted by Congressional authorization is the only real money according to the Constitution! … There’s nothing “anti american” about exposing that which is Unconstitutional,it’s one’s patriotic duty! Intelligent real patriots question fraudulent,tyrannical,treasonous,Unconstitutional authority! Intelligent real patriots read everything,listen to everyone but believe nothing until they can prove it through their own research! … Don’t you or anyone else waste my valuable time replying unless you can ever possibly start to wake up and begin thinking for yourself! I don’t have the patience for Marxist Income Tax propaganda BULLSHIT parroted by manipulated sheeple who regurgitate that it’s “doing one’s patriotic duty”! I damn well know it’s BULLSHIT!!! WAKE THE HELL UP!!!