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December 21st, 2007 | Category: Mor(m)ons

Lord, what else does Mitt The Mor(m)on Romney gotta say before America realizes that he’s gonna put the International House of Pancakes outta business with all his waffles?

He made his little speech about how he’s so proud to be a Mor(m)on that he’s only gonna use the word once.? He didn’t say nothing about magic underpants.? He didn’t say nothing about Jesus and Satan being brothers.? He didn’t say nothing about how if he’s a good Mor(m)on then he’ll be a god when he dies.? And he didn’t say one ding-dang-doggone thing about how many wives he truly has.? If he can’t be bothered to be straight with the American people then we ain’t got no cause to be bothered with him.

I ain’t saying he didn’t say one or two good things but after all a stopped clock is right twice a day.? He said a real good thing about how “freedom requires religion” and that’s truer than true.? But if he shoulda said “freedom requires historical Christianity”.? ‘Course he wouldn’t say that cuz he’s part of a Satanic cult that believes that after the End Times the Mor(m)ons will be in charge.? Fat chance.

But we all oughta know by now that once Mitt makes a forceful statement about what he believes in, he’s gonna back right off it quicker than you can say Alister Crowley.? So when Tim “Fat Boy” Russert asked him about freedom requiring religion, Mitt broke out his dancing shoes and started tap dancing like Bill Bojangles Robinson but not as good cuz he ain’t a negro.

Russert Potatoe asked him if you could be a good person and be an atheist.? The answer to the question as we’ve proved time and time again is no.? Without a deep and abiding faith in Jesus Christ, the Lord and Savior of mankind you are not fit to walk on this earth.? End of story.? But not for Mitt.

If you need anymore proof of the evil of not only Mor(m)onism but Romney as a so-called human being then y’all watch this clip be sitting down when you do cuz you’re gonna hear Mitt the Mor(m)on say that he’s willing to appoint atheists to cabinet positions AND to the court.

I just wanna say one thing to you, Mitt Romney, all the money in the world will never buy back your soul.? Jesus said that.? But you wouldn’t know that cuz you don’t believe in Jesus.

mtp_dec_16_freedom_requires_religion.wmv

18 Comments so far

Thomas December 21st, 2007 11:40 am

“But if he shoulda said ?¢‚Ç¨?ìfreedom requires historical Christianity?¢‚Ç¨¬ù.”

So freedom requires Catholicism. Never knew you thought that.

“Russert Potatoe asked him if you could be a good person and be an atheist.”

Yes, you can.

Greetings from liberal Holland,
Thomas van der Meer

PS. I’m off to a vacation in Germany, where my grandparents live. So I won’t be posting for a week. To my fellow peanut gallery members: I’m looking forward to see what you’ve debunked when I get back. And to everyone: Merry Christman and a happy new year.
LsH December 21st, 2007 11:45 am

If he claims Jesus and Satan to be brothers, wouldn’t he need to believe in Jesus in the first place? xD
LsH December 21st, 2007 11:48 am

And your point is, btw? That a president should rather choose people based on their faith rather than on their skills? Well, 8 years Bush administration proved, where that will lead… xD
Mike Stewart December 21st, 2007 12:26 pm

It is a known fact that all Mormons are sex maniacs who need about a dozen wives to satisfy their wicked devil controlled sex drive. All of them are fornicators, masturbators and nimphomaniacs. We have already had one sex maniac in office named Bill Clinton and we dont need another. You have to get up pretty early in the morning to fool Sedgewick P. Hunsaker and I aint fooled at all by this Romney guy even if he is masquerading as a Republican. Nope Mike Huckabee is the only man who can stop this country from going deeper down into the roots of moral depravity. Let Mitt Romney go out to San Francisco and run for mayor or something. Praise Jesus!

Sedgewick P. Hunsaker
LeftTurn December 21st, 2007 5:02 pm

Mike Stewart | December 21, 2007 at 12:26 pm

“Sedgewick P. Hunsaker”

Worst. Fake. Ever.

“He didn?¢‚Ç¨‚Ñ¢t say nothing about magic underpants. He didn?¢‚Ç¨‚Ñ¢t say nothing about Jesus and Satan being brothers. He didn?¢‚Ç¨‚Ñ¢t say nothing about how if he?¢‚Ç¨‚Ñ¢s a good Mor(m)on then he?¢‚Ç¨‚Ñ¢ll be a god when he dies.”

Gotta love a modest candidate.

“If he can?¢‚Ç¨‚Ñ¢t be bothered to be straight with the American people then we ain?¢‚Ç¨‚Ñ¢t got no cause to be bothered with him.”

Yet you bother yourself with Bush.

“Russert Potatoe asked him if you could be a good person and be an atheist. The answer to the question as we?¢‚Ç¨‚Ñ¢ve proved time and time again is no.”

Allow me to disprove that:

A few weeks ago I saw a blog somewhere - I forget where. Anyway, there was a post and a series of comments about whether we possess free will or not (it was around the time I wrote this poll question). The discussion centred on the thought experiment of “would you shoot an innocent person, given no extenuating circumstances”? For the vast majority of us the answer is, instantly and incontrovertibly, no. The application to the free will question then is that if you are incapable of shooting this person, perhaps you don’t actually possess the free will to actively decide to shoot them. Of course this invites the argument that, “Well, actually I could decide to shoot them, I just wouldn’t.” At which point the argument can go in circles for as long as the arguers enjoy it.

Someone raised the question, “Well if you have the free will to decide to shoot, but never actually do shoot, what’s stopping you?”

Someone answered, “God.”

“And what if God doesn’t exist?”

“Well then I guess I’d shoot the person.”

Wait a second. How does someone who believes in God and God’s moral code and is a moral person, come to the conclusion that if God did not exist then God’s rules would simply not apply and he would be able to bring himself to shoot a completely innocent person?

He’s literally saying that he’s only a moral person because God exists and lays down the law. He said, right there in black and white, that if God didn’t exist, moral laws would cease to apply and he would go around casually killing people.

Now one conclusion you could come to is that this guy is a complete nutter and should be locked up in an institution somewhere. But I’m willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, because clearly he is not actually going around murdering people, and (because of God) he actually thinks that killing people is a bad thing to do. But the really scary thing is that this is not the first time I’ve seen such an argument. Over the years, in various places, I’ve seen many religious people make the statement in more words or less that if God wasn’t around, there’d be nothing to stop people doing any antisocial, violent, evil thing they feel like whenever the whim takes them.

I’ve never understood how religious people who are basically good can think like this. It seems clear to me that the vast majority of atheists (thus with no religious moral code) are basically moral people, extremely unlikely to swing at people with axes when the fancy takes them. If they weren’t, the world would be a seriously dreadful place. How can the people who believe this sort of thing not see that?

So this has always puzzled and disturbed me. Until a few days ago when I raised the topic in conversation with a friend of mine. And he had an explanation.

Atheists, he said, need to find a moral direction from within. We need to examine our own values and beliefs in the context of human society, put some thought into them, and behave in ways that accord with what we decide is the moral way to act. There are various expressions of moral codes that work in this context. A simple one is “do unto others as you would have them do unto you.” You don’t need to believe in God to think about that and decide that yes, if everyone lived by that simple maxim, the world would be a nicer place. You don’t need God to be nice to people. You don’t need God to have morals.

Strongly religious people, on the other hand, get moral direction from the authority of God. God tells them how to behave, and God is the most important thing in their lives, so there’s their moral code right there. They never have to think about their morals, because they are decreed from on high. They never have to go through a logical argument with themselves to decide that they should be nice to other people - they’re just nice to people because that’s what God says to do. If they never have to internalise their values and derive their own moral code, then it’s not even something that they realise can be done. When a person like this looks at an atheist, they don’t realise that the atheist has probably spent time (more or less consciously) to produce a moral code that they endeavour to live up to. All they see is someone without the moral code of God. They don’t realise that there are other ways in which one can be a moral person. So they conclude that the atheist has no morals.

This is why religious fundamentalists are so scared of atheists. Everyone who believes is okay, because God will keep them in line, but those atheists, they’ll probably stick a knife in you as soon as look at you. This is the problem with religious fundamentalist morals.

http://www.irregularwebcomic.net/1609.html
Scroll down to the annotation for the complete text. As a Christian myself, I found this to be an insightful investigation.
mitt_supporter December 21st, 2007 5:14 pm

Mitt Romney is a drunken closet case who probably has 27 bodies buried in his basement. As such, he’s just my kind of man.

*kisses*
Always Right December 21st, 2007 6:39 pm

Another great article through and through. Mormon’s are about as Christian as Catholics, these freaky-deaky cultists will say anything. Even the lefty screwballs have been debunking Mitt, on Democracy Now! the commie Amy Goodman had an excellent article about Mitt’s purchases of ClearChannel. Good to see how a faithless, Satanic Mor(m)on can be a career politician, have judges among his family, and also own one of the biggest broadcasters in the mighty US-of-A. Collusion? More like blatant undermining of the greatest democracy in the world by a bunch of freaks! Thank God for decorated war hero and successful (real) entrepreneur President GW Bush, at least he won’t let a bunch of corporatist religious cultist nutjobs cause any wars or trouble under his watch.

Always Right
LeftTurn December 21st, 2007 6:51 pm

“Mormon?¢‚Ç¨‚Ñ¢s are about as Christian as Catholics…”

:-)

“…these freaky-deaky cultists will say anything.”

I know. STR’s scary, isn’t it?

“faithless, Satanic”

Uh, oh! An oxymoron!

“Thank God for decorated war hero… President GW Bush…”

Look, we’ve been over this already; Dubya weaseled his way out of serving in Vietnam. War hero? Hah! What did he do to get decorated?

“…at least he won?¢‚Ç¨‚Ñ¢t let a bunch of corporatist religious cultist nutjobs cause any wars or trouble under his watch.”

He won’t let them, he’ll be leading ‘em.
jeri December 21st, 2007 8:10 pm

OMG Are you people for real? If so where can I catch the next Greyhound bus for Canada?
Proud german December 22nd, 2007 10:48 am

“hank God for decorated war hero and successful (real) entrepreneur President GW Bush,”

You?Ç¬¥re talking about the scumbag that went AWOL in wartimes and failed miserably at any business he ever tried?

“at least he won?¢‚Ç¨‚Ñ¢t let a bunch of corporatist religious cultist nutjobs cause any wars or trouble under his watch.”

Till they paid him to cause their war for them…

I?Ç¬¥m back with a vengeance!

The German Guy
IMPEACH BUSH!
Richard 23 December 22nd, 2007 1:47 pm

Another fantastic post, Dr. Billy Bob Neck. You must have a brainbox the size of a planet with all the smart stuff you’re able to say. It’s wisdom like yours that proves God exists. Ain’t no monkey could come up with first class arguments like yours!

God bless the STR Think Tank!
Journey to Truth December 22nd, 2007 5:40 pm

Proud German just back with diarrhea and knows it is vengeance.
Adolph Steinmetz December 22nd, 2007 8:27 pm

Yo proud german my man main howzit at the nazi meeting in munich dude?
WHY NOT!?! December 23rd, 2007 2:17 am

“Another fantastic post, Dr. Billy Bob Neck.”
BBN is not a doctor, he is an inbred half-wit with a single digit IQ!
Adolph Steinmetz December 23rd, 2007 2:20 am

Let’s keep yo mama out of this WHY NOT!
WHY NOT!?! December 24th, 2007 5:21 am

“God bless the STR Think Tank!”

STR and Think, Oil and Water
Always Right December 24th, 2007 10:32 am

@Mitt_supporter - “Mitt Romney is a drunken closet case who probably has 27 bodies buried in his basement. As such, he?¢‚Ç¨‚Ñ¢s just my kind of man.”

Finally some truth: at least here in this free and open forum, the real Mitt Romneyski supporters can say what they truly feel, in a fair, open and unedited way. Thank-you for saying it like it is Mitt_supporter!

Always Right
LeftTurn December 24th, 2007 5:54 pm

“Finally some truth: at least here in this free and open forum, the real Mitt Romneyski supporters can say what they truly feel, in a fair, open and unedited way.”

*snerk*cough*bullshit*
You aren’t fooling anyone, Chuck. See below.

“Thank-you for saying it like it is Mitt_supporter!”

The scary thing is, I can actually remember what he said before the mod-hack.